2 questions about ninja shapeshifter and weapons

L5R CCG Rules board, 12 April 2015 to 17 April 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 12 April 2015

So, first question; let's say we have a ninja shapeshifter with a +2f weapon, and another personality with 5f. The ninja copies the second guy's force. Is the ninja now 5f or 7f (5f+2f)?

Second question; now ninja shapeshifter has a Tachi. He copies a 6chi personality. Does the ninja now have 5chi, 6chi, or 9chi?

Edit: for clarification, relevant texts: Tachi +3chi Negate this Personality's Force and Chi bonuses

Ninja shapeshifter 2f 2chi Ninja Battle/Open: Ninja Shapeshifter copies a target Personality's Force, Chi, Personal Honor, or ability that does not copy abilities.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 17 April 2015

So, first question; let's say we have a ninja shapeshifter with a +2f weapon, and another personality with 5f. The ninja copies the second guy's force. Is the ninja now 5f or 7f (5f+2f)?

Second question; now ninja shapeshifter has a Tachi. He copies a 6chi personality. Does the ninja now have 5chi, 6chi, or 9chi?

Edit: for clarification, relevant texts: Tachi +3chi Negate this Personality's Force and Chi bonuses

Ninja shapeshifter 2f 2chi Ninja Battle/Open: Ninja Shapeshifter copies a target Personality's Force, Chi, Personal Honor, or ability that does not copy abilities.

When you "copy" or "set" a stat to a specific number, you give a bonus or penalty equal to the difference between the new number and the old number.

In example 1, the Shapeshifter is currently 4F, and is copying a 5F personality. Therefore he gets a bonus of +1F, and is 5F.

In example 2, the Tachi negates the bonus to chi the Shapeshifter would get, so he remains at 5C.