Reprisal + Retribution

L5R CCG Rules board, 12 March 2015 to 13 March 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 12 March 2015

Howdy!

I had a quick question about the following interaction:

Both my opponent and I have 4 provinces. My opponent attacks and takes my province (now 3 to 4.) I have a defender elsewhere who I play Reprisal on to counterattack and take his province (3 to 3.)

After my Reprisal phase attack, does the trigger still exist to play Retribution in reaction to my opponent's original attack.

If not, and I have to play Retribution before the Reprisal, does the order in which they get played matter. If not, how is it decided?

Cheers!

Reprisal Battle: Give your target defending or your target opposed Personality +1F for each card in his unit (including himself). After this Attack Phase ends, if he was defending and you have fewer Provinces than the Attacker, declare an additional Attack Phase against him, during which your other Personalities cannot attack.

Retribution Reaction: After the end of an Attack Phase in which you were the Defender: Declare an additional Attack Phase against that phase's Attacker, in which neither player may invite allies and you may only assign one Personality. Give the Personality and each Follower in his unit +1F after he assigns.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 13 March 2015

Howdy!

I had a quick question about the following interaction:

Both my opponent and I have 4 provinces. My opponent attacks and takes my province (now 3 to 4.) I have a defender elsewhere who I play Reprisal on to counterattack and take his province (3 to 3.)

After my Reprisal phase attack, does the trigger still exist to play Retribution in reaction to my opponent's original attack.

If not, and I have to play Retribution before the Reprisal, does the order in which they get played matter. If not, how is it decided?

Cheers!

Reprisal Battle: Give your target defending or your target opposed Personality +1F for each card in his unit (including himself). After this Attack Phase ends, if he was defending and you have fewer Provinces than the Attacker, declare an additional Attack Phase against him, during which your other Personalities cannot attack.

Retribution Reaction: After the end of an Attack Phase in which you were the Defender: Declare an additional Attack Phase against that phase's Attacker, in which neither player may invite allies and you may only assign one Personality. Give the Personality and each Follower in his unit +1F after he assigns.

Reprisal will automatically trigger the attack phase after the other player's attack phase ends. However, this does not close the window for reactions played "after the end of an Attack Phase", such as Retribution. That window is only technically closed when both players pass on it. Therefore, you will still be able to Retribution after the attack phase created by Reprisal (but both your and your opponent will have a chance to react to the end of your Reprisal's attack phase first, so he might Retribution you!)