Matsu Misato, House of No Tomorrow

L5R CCG Rules board, 26 October 2014 to 27 October 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 26 October 2014

Since subtitles are now considered single word keywords, does Matsu Misato (The Hatamoto) serve as an MRP of Matsu Misato (from IE)?

Also, since I get a little confused by wording: With one House of No Tomorrow out and no courtesy, what is the honor total you must end your turn at to be eliminated by dishonor: -21 or -19?

Alex Jones (rules official), 27 October 2014

Since subtitles are now considered single word keywords, does Matsu Misato (The Hatamoto) serve as an MRP of Matsu Misato (from IE)?

Also, since I get a little confused by wording: With one House of No Tomorrow out and no courtesy, what is the honor total you must end your turn at to be eliminated by dishonor: -21 or -19?

As the Oracle states, Matsu Misato from Glory of the Empire and Matsu Misato from The New Order are different cards (the former is the mother of the latter).

If one House of No Tomorrow is out, and its controller does not have Courtesy, the Family Honour target for a dishonour victory is -20 + -1, which is -21.