A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 24 August 2014
Lets say I have a 3 Force Unique Samurai and my enemy has fifteen 2 force followers in play. Can I announce Champions Strike, interrupt with Hidden Dagger, and destroy them all?
Likewise, can I announce Oneiyara and interrupt with Hidden Dagger to give someone -4F before Oneiyara's fear goes off (provided he wins?) (-2F for duels targeting, and -2F for the fear targeting.)
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 August 2014
Lets say I have a 3 Force Unique Samurai and my enemy has fifteen 2 force followers in play. Can I announce Champions Strike, interrupt with Hidden Dagger, and destroy them all?
EDIT: Well, no, not this after all. See two posts down. But the Oneiyara answer is still correct.
Likewise, can I announce Oneiyara and interrupt with Hidden Dagger to give someone -4F before Oneiyara's fear goes off (provided he wins?) (-2F for duels targeting, and -2F for the fear targeting.)
Again, yes you may!
Look out for Hidden Daggers, everyone. They'll get you with their COMBOS!
A player, 6 September 2014
Can you please explain this ruling: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=109757&p=1438080&hilit=hidden+dagger#p1438080
To be more precise, can you please explain the timing? From my point of view you have to target all targets simultaneously, rather than successivly, and all the targets have to be legal at this moment. And if you target successivly, what defines whether you count the force you have targeted or the force you have destroyed. I see nothing in the cards text nor in the CR, except the card saying you may target AND destory followers with force ....
Another question is: is a 3F personality able to destroy two 3F followers since you have just 2Force left after the first destruction?
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 21 September 2014
Can you please explain this ruling: http://alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... r#p1438080
To be more precise, can you please explain the timing? From my point of view you have to target all targets simultaneously, rather than successivly, and all the targets have to be legal at this moment. And if you target successivly, what defines whether you count the force you have targeted or the force you have destroyed. I see nothing in the cards text nor in the CR, except the card saying you may target AND destory followers with force ....
Yes, you're actually correct, and I've reversed my answer regarding Champion's Strike for these very reasons. Simultaneous things complicate matters, and we do our best to avoid them when we can, including the fact that triggers to simultaneous things resolve sequentially, which was what got me thinking the combo WOULD work. But indeed, the targeting would all have to be legal and chosen before any of the -2Fs would go off, so it couldn't allow for successive new targets.
Another question is: is a 3F personality able to destroy two 3F followers since you have just 2Force left after the first destruction?
I'm not sure what you're asking on this one, sorry.
And also my apologies for not getting back to this sooner. The Team has been rather swamped behind the scenes.