Goju Saido

L5R CCG Rules board, 4 August 2014 to 5 August 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 4 August 2014

http://imperialassembly.com/oracle/#cardid=11605 How does his invest work? It reads like it is done when you recruit him but that happens during the dynasty segment and during that time there is no "enemy" personalities or followers to target.

Alex Jones (rules official), 5 August 2014

http://imperialassembly.com/oracle/#cardid=11605 How does his invest work? It reads like it is done when you recruit him but that happens during the dynasty segment and during that time there is no "enemy" personalities or followers to target.

Under discussion.

Alex Jones (rules official), 5 August 2014

A Melee Attack doesn't target "An enemy Follower or Personality without Followers" - which would indeed cause problems, as "Enemy" is undefined outside of an Attack Phase.

It instead targets "A Follower or a Personality without Followers in the current enemy army," which in the case of Goju Saido becomes, "A Follower or a Personality without Followers in the current enemy army or in a player's home."

Alex

A player, 5 August 2014

Continued Uhm...

Comp rules page 58:

“Ranged X Attack”, where X stands for a number, is shorthand for the text “Target a Follower or a Personality without Followers in the current enemy army. If its Force is equal to or less than X, destroy it.” A Ranged Attack action is one with a Ranged Attack effect. (emphasis mine)

It seems that melee attacks do in fact target enemy cards as they have to target a card in the current enemy army which only exist in a battle.

Alex Jones (rules official), 5 August 2014

Continued Uhm...

Comp rules page 58:

“Ranged X Attack”, where X stands for a number, is shorthand for the text “Target a Follower or a Personality without Followers in the current enemy army. If its Force is equal to or less than X, destroy it.” A Ranged Attack action is one with a Ranged Attack effect. (emphasis mine)

It seems that melee attacks do in fact target enemy cards as they have to target a card in the current enemy army which only exist in a battle.

A Melee Attack which targets a card in the current enemy army will indeed target an enemy card. However, Goju Saido allows the Melee attack to target "a card in a player's home", without requiring that that player is an enemy.