Doomed Intentions (Legacy/BigDeck)

L5R CCG Rules board, 2 August 2014 to 5 August 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 2 August 2014

So, it's been pointed out on Shiro Big Deck that as currently worded, Doomed Intentions' movement action may not be usable:

Doomed Intentions: Battle: If there are any enemy units at the current battlefield, target your unit: Move it there. If it moved, straighten it. If you are the Defender, take an additional Battle action to use a base ability on a card in the unit.

Comprehensive Rules: p38: To be legally targeted by an action during battle, any cards in a unit must be at the current battlefield.

This would be problematic for a huge number of cards in legacy formats. Can we get a clarification before the Gencon Tournament?

Ben Higgins (rules official), 5 August 2014

So, it's been pointed out on Shiro Big Deck that as currently worded, Doomed Intentions' movement action may not be usable:

Doomed Intentions: Battle: If there are any enemy units at the current battlefield, target your unit: Move it there. If it moved, straighten it. If you are the Defender, take an additional Battle action to use a base ability on a card in the unit.

Comprehensive Rules: p38: To be legally targeted by an action during battle, any cards in a unit must be at the current battlefield.

This would be problematic for a huge number of cards in legacy formats. Can we get a clarification before the Gencon Tournament?

Due to the huge nature of getting every card in the Oracle updated with Ivory templated text, that project will not be completed in time.

How Gen Con's Big Deck event will work is, cards will be played as they worked under the rules set they were most recently printed in. If you and your opponent cannot agree with how a card works, you will call a judge. Both Brook and myself will be your judges for Gen Con, and we will explain to you and your opponent how the card works. Obviously this will be assessed on a card for card basis.

For the specific case of Doomed Intentions, the Battle ability on the card would be played as if it had Absent.