Asako Kaitoko and Maximum Force

L5R CCG Rules board, 20 June 2014 to 21 June 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 20 June 2014

Asako Kaitoko

Personalities with Fallen, Kolat, Ninja, Nonhuman, or Shadowlands opposing Kaitoko have a maximum Force of 3.

Scenario Kaitoko is opposed to a base 3 force ninja with a weapon that gives a force modifier of +2, as stated on her card the ninja's maximum force is 3... if I play an action that reduces the ninja's force by -2, would this only reduce the force that is exceeding the maximum? Essentially resulting in the ninja still having 3 force? Or would the ninja have 1 force?

Jon Palmer (rules official), 21 June 2014

Asako Kaitoko

Personalities with Fallen, Kolat, Ninja, Nonhuman, or Shadowlands opposing Kaitoko have a maximum Force of 3.

Scenario Kaitoko is opposed to a base 3 force ninja with a weapon that gives a force modifier of +2, as stated on her card the ninja's maximum force is 3... if I play an action that reduces the ninja's force by -2, would this only reduce the force that is exceeding the maximum? Essentially resulting in the ninja still having 3 force? Or would the ninja have 1 force?

Maximums and minimums are always applied after doing all other force calculations.

In this case, the Ninja's original force would be 3 + 2, capped at 3, for a total of 3F. When you give him -2F, it becomes 3 + 2 - 2, capped at 3, and remains a total of 3F.