RE: Deep Harbour

L5R CCG Rules board, 6 May 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 6 May 2014

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I'm not sure as to the answer in question 1: do you bow Deep Harbour for its trait when you would normally pay gold? I understand that the rules team is looking at a related issue, but I'm not aware that this directly affects this question unless a change in the rules is planned.

In response to the answer to question2: is this suggesting that the comprehensive rules should be changed to something like "EXCEPTION: Traits that are triggered when paying a Gold cost, and or whose effects produce Gold, are optional;", or is the current text correct and I have misunderstood that the 'and' in this case conveys an 'either' clause?

A player, 6 May 2014

I'm not sure as to the answer in question 1: do you bow Deep Harbour for its trait when you would normally pay gold? I understand that the rules team is looking at a related issue, but I'm not aware that this directly affects this question unless a change in the rules is planned.

There's a discussion going on about the exact timing of the effects on holdings of this kind. So there's a chance that some rules technicisms change, yes, if it's needed so that things occur in the order intended. It won't affect play or power level, just to ensure that cards work as they intuitively should.

As for the question, you bow Deep Harbour during the Cost payment step of the Recruiting action

In response to the answer to question2: is this suggesting that the comprehensive rules should be changed to something like "EXCEPTION: Traits that are triggered when paying a Gold cost, and or whose effects produce Gold, are optional;", or is the current text correct and I have misunderstood that the 'and' in this case conveys an 'either' clause?

Yes, that's what I'm saying. "And" should mean "either", but it'd probably be better if we said "or" instead.