Shadowed Estate again... sorry...

L5R CCG Rules board, 7 April 2014 to 8 April 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 7 April 2014

how does shadowed estate interact with fate cards that enter play rather than just get discarded after use? such as terrains, katas and rings? if i name the ring of the void and my opponent sill plays it does the ring just go back into his hand or does it get discarded? because it normally would never be discarded anyways... same with katas and terrains.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 8 April 2014

how does shadowed estate interact with fate cards that enter play rather than just get discarded after use? such as terrains, katas and rings? if i name the ring of the void and my opponent sill plays it does the ring just go back into his hand or does it get discarded? because it normally would never be discarded anyways... same with katas and terrains.

If the action you're taking is to put them into play, they will be discarded when their action is negated.

If you're taking an action from a card already in play, the action will be negated but the card will remain in play.

Note that the Rings besides Void do not enter play as an action, so Shadowed Estate will not stop them from entering play.