Unsettling Gathering vs. Clay Kshatriya

L5R CCG Rules board, 21 March 2014 to 25 March 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 21 March 2014

How much gold do I need to pay to use Unsettling Gathering to target a Clay Kshatriya that was attatched WITH the invest cost paid?

Ben Higgins (rules official), 25 March 2014

How much gold do I need to pay to use Unsettling Gathering to target a Clay Kshatriya that was attatched WITH the invest cost paid?

Invest does not change the Gold Cost of a card. When paying for a card entering play, you may pay additional Gold for the card equal to the additional cost in its Invest trait, once, to get an additional effect after it enters play (for example, “Gain 1 Honor” or “Give this card a +2F token.”) This does not increase the Gold Cost stat of the card, but is treated as other effects that increase required payments by using "paying" language.

For the purposes of Unsettling Gathering, an Invested Clay Kshatriya would only require 2 Gold to transfer.

EDIT: For clarification. -Ryushi

A player, 25 March 2014

Related to the answer given here:

Ben Higgins wrote:

Invest is only a temporary increase of the Gold Cost of a card. It is paid when the card is being Equipped in addition to the printed Gold Cost, but itself is not a permanent increase of Gold Cost.

For the purposes of Unsettling Gathering, an Invested Clay Kshatriya would only require 2 Gold to transfer.

Does the Gold cost increase from Invest last until the end of the turn?

If the player in the original question pays 7 Gold to fully Invest and attach Clay Kshatriya, and his opponent wants to play (for example) Provoked Violence to destroy it, would it cost 7 Gold to do so on the turn the follower enters play? And then presumably, per the original answer, only 2G to destroy it on subsequent turns?

Ben Higgins (rules official), 25 March 2014

Related to the answer given here:

Does the Gold cost increase from Invest last until the end of the turn?

If the player in the original question pays 7 Gold to fully Invest and attach Clay Kshatriya, and his opponent wants to play (for example) Provoked Violence to destroy it, would it cost 7 Gold to do so on the turn the follower enters play? And then presumably, per the original answer, only 2G to destroy it on subsequent turns?

I have edited my answer in the referenced ruling to more accurately reflect what I was trying to say. The edited ruling should also answer your question here.

Invest does not increase the Gold Cost stat as previously alluded to, so Provoked Violence will always destroy a Clay Kshatriya for 2 Gold (or for free if you control a Yojimbo.)