War + Koan's Whisper + Expensive Achievement

L5R CCG Rules board, 4 March 2014 to 5 March 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 4 March 2014

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Relevant Text of Koan's Whisper Void Limited, w: Reduce a Province's strength to 0. If its player has two or more Provinces, you may remove five Koan cards you control from the game to destroy it.

Relevant Text of Expensive Battle: Give this Province +2 or -2 Strength.

Okay so here is my question. I use Koan's whisper on a province, reducing it's strength to 0. I then go in to combat, furing the combat i use expensive achievement to lower it a further 2 force. Can my 0 force dude take this province? IS the provinces strength 0? or is it -2?

Thanks in advance!!

Jon Palmer (rules official), 5 March 2014

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Relevant Text of Koan's Whisper Void Limited, w: Reduce a Province's strength to 0. If its player has two or more Provinces, you may remove five Koan cards you control from the game to destroy it.

Relevant Text of Expensive Battle: Give this Province +2 or -2 Strength.

Okay so here is my question. I use Koan's whisper on a province, reducing it's strength to 0. I then go in to combat, furing the combat i use expensive achievement to lower it a further 2 force. Can my 0 force dude take this province? IS the provinces strength 0? or is it -2?

Thanks in advance!!

No, province strength (and any number, other than family honor) cannot drop below zero. You're still going to need 1F there to take the province.