Secluded Waystation/etc. and "paying for" a card

L5R CCG Rules board, 28 December 2013 to 1 January 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 28 December 2013

Under the new Ivory gold pooling rules, how does Secluded Waystation (link to Ivory text) know whether it has produced gold to recruit a personality or not? If I bow it to produce gold in my dynasty phase along with other holdings and buy a combination of holdings and people, can I just assume that its interrupt will be usable on any one personality I choose? This also applies to Imperial Artificer, Vast Paddy Fields, etc.

As an additional bonus question, with a card such as Vast Paddy Fields, Imperial Artificer, or really any holding (although most don't care about it), how many different cards can a given gold production be considered to "pay for?" If I have a Vast Paddy Fields and a 444 in play and I bow them both to produce 6 total gold, and use that to buy 3 two gold cost farm holdings, how many provinces can I refill face-up? I can see arguments for it to be 1, 2, or 3.

Thanks

Edit: After rereading the actual Ivory text for Vast Paddy Fields for Ivory and not the current EE Oracle text, I think it's clear that Vast Paddy Fields can only refill one province because you have to bow it WHILE you're paying for a holding to get the benefit. Question still stands about other cards with the "pay for" wording though.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 1 January 2014

Under the new Ivory gold pooling rules, how does Secluded Waystation (link to Ivory text) know whether it has produced gold to recruit a personality or not? If I bow it to produce gold in my dynasty phase along with other holdings and buy a combination of holdings and people, can I just assume that its interrupt will be usable on any one personality I choose? This also applies to Imperial Artificer, Vast Paddy Fields, etc.

As an additional bonus question, with a card such as Vast Paddy Fields, Imperial Artificer, or really any holding (although most don't care about it), how many different cards can a given gold production be considered to "pay for?" If I have a Vast Paddy Fields and a 444 in play and I bow them both to produce 6 total gold, and use that to buy 3 two gold cost farm holdings, how many provinces can I refill face-up? I can see arguments for it to be 1, 2, or 3.

Thanks

Edit: After rereading the actual Ivory text for Vast Paddy Fields for Ivory and not the current EE Oracle text, I think it's clear that Vast Paddy Fields can only refill one province because you have to bow it WHILE you're paying for a holding to get the benefit. Question still stands about other cards with the "pay for" wording though.

I see you meant Secluded Outpost. For that...

Referenced actions in an Interrupt refer to the interrupted action, therefore the bowing of the Outpost must have been to pay for the referenced Recruit in order to take the Interrupt action in Good Faith.

As for the other Holdings you asked, expect their Oracle wording to resemble Vast Paddy Fields come Ivory.