A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 8 December 2012
My question revolves around the fact that Ambush does not create a new phase, but instead creates a Combat Segment during the Action Phase.
Ambush reads:
Limited: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target another player's Personality: Create a battlefield (not at any province). Assign your Personality to attack there. Assign the target to defend there, even if he is bowed. Other Personalities will not move there. Fight a battle there (after this action's resolution). After the battle ends, lose 5 Honor.
Looking through the rules, the only restrictions I can see on taking Limited/Open/Battle actions are:
Limited: At an opportunity to act in the player’s Action Phase; Open: At an opportunity to act in any player’s Action Phase; Battle: At an opportunity to act in the Combat Segment; Reaction: At its stated trigger.
So, is the following play legal? And if not, could you please clarify why not?
It is my turn. I control a single Naval personality, Yoritomo Tsang for arguments sake. My first action in the Action Phase is to play Ambush, targeting Kakita X. After the personalities have assigned, I take a Naval action killing Kakita X. My opponent passes their action. As it is now my opportunity to act in the Action Phase, the restrictions above would suggest that I can take a Limited or an Open action now, so I play another copy of Ambush, choosing Yoritomo Tsang to assign against Kakita Y. Again I take a Naval kill action. As it is now my opponents opportunity to act in my Action Phase, they now take an Open action to play Duel of Haiku from Kakita Z (who is at home) targeting Yoritomo Tsang.
Is all this legal?
Thanks in advance!
Ben Higgins (rules official), 9 December 2012
My question revolves around the fact that Ambush does not create a new phase, but instead creates a Combat Segment during the Action Phase.
Ambush reads:
Limited: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target another player's Personality: Create a battlefield (not at any province). Assign your Personality to attack there. Assign the target to defend there, even if he is bowed. Other Personalities will not move there. Fight a battle there (after this action's resolution). After the battle ends, lose 5 Honor.
Looking through the rules, the only restrictions I can see on taking Limited/Open/Battle actions are:
Limited: At an opportunity to act in the player’s Action Phase; Open: At an opportunity to act in any player’s Action Phase; Battle: At an opportunity to act in the Combat Segment; Reaction: At its stated trigger.
So, is the following play legal? And if not, could you please clarify why not?
It is my turn. I control a single Naval personality, Yoritomo Tsang for arguments sake. My first action in the Action Phase is to play Ambush, targeting Kakita X. After the personalities have assigned, I take a Naval action killing Kakita X. My opponent passes their action. As it is now my opportunity to act in the Action Phase, the restrictions above would suggest that I can take a Limited or an Open action now, so I play another copy of Ambush, choosing Yoritomo Tsang to assign against Kakita Y. Again I take a Naval kill action. As it is now my opponents opportunity to act in my Action Phase, they now take an Open action to play Duel of Haiku from Kakita Z (who is at home) targeting Yoritomo Tsang.
Is all this legal?
Thanks in advance!
You and your opponent cannot play Open or Limited actions while a battle is being fought, even if that battle is occurring during an Action Phase, as per the rules regarding the Combat Segment.