I Know That Trick vs. Flee the Darkness

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 October 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 17 October 2012

I Know That Trick (the ability I'm asking about): Battle: Choose your performing Personality: A number of simultaneous Ranged 1 Attacks up to his Force.

Flee the Darkness: Reaction: After another player targets one of your Personalities with a Battle action, bow your performing Monk or Shugenja: Negate the action's effects.

I attack with a 6F personality, my opponent defends with 4 1F personalities, one of which is a Shugenja.

I play IKTT for a total of (say) 6 RA1s.

I want to resolve/target them in sequence and start with the 3 non-Shugenja personalities, then have the other 3 RAs target the Shugenja.

My opponent wants to play Flee when I target his Shugenja and cancel the whole thing.

What happens?

a) All RAs are targeted at the same time, and Flee cancels everything before a single RA resolves b) Since the RA target is optional (not required), I don't target when I announce IKTT but only upon resolution, where each RA is resolved in sequence. Flee only cancels the first RA that targets the Shugenja and the two last subsequent RAs c) Same as b) but Flee is still able to negate all effects (destruction) of the RAs that targeted the non-Shugenja personalities d) Segmentation Fault. We have to restart the game.

Thanks,

Jose

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 October 2012

I Know That Trick (the ability I'm asking about): Battle: Choose your performing Personality: A number of simultaneous Ranged 1 Attacks up to his Force.

Flee the Darkness: Reaction: After another player targets one of your Personalities with a Battle action, bow your performing Monk or Shugenja: Negate the action's effects.

I attack with a 6F personality, my opponent defends with 4 1F personalities, one of which is a Shugenja.

I play IKTT for a total of (say) 6 RA1s.

I want to resolve/target them in sequence and start with the 3 non-Shugenja personalities, then have the other 3 RAs target the Shugenja.

My opponent wants to play Flee when I target his Shugenja and cancel the whole thing.

What happens?

a) All RAs are targeted at the same time, and Flee cancels everything before a single RA resolves b) Since the RA target is optional (not required), I don't target when I announce IKTT but only upon resolution, where each RA is resolved in sequence. Flee only cancels the first RA that targets the Shugenja and the two last subsequent RAs c) Same as b) but Flee is still able to negate all effects (destruction) of the RAs that targeted the non-Shugenja personalities d) Segmentation Fault. We have to restart the game.

Thanks,

Jose

From the Glossary, Ranged Attack: Simultaneous Ranged Attacks are targeted at the same time, then their effects are applied at the same time.

Flee the Darkness is played after any of the Ranged Attacks is targeted, before any of the effects are applied, so all the Ranged Attacks are negated.