Oracle of the Void #rules

April 2025

Messages from the Oracle of the Void #rules Discord channel, copied for Oracle of the Void. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings and the rulebooks may differ.

A player, 22 April 2025 17:10

not sure if this is really a rules question, but can i get a bit more context on why Chuda is listed as an unaligned family name in the 20f CR (instead of Spider)?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 22 April 2025 17:13 · in reply

The Chuda split with the Spider in Emperor. They weren't folded back in until after 20F (which the CR was/is contemporary with), in Thunderous Acclaim.

A player, 22 April 2025 17:15

i see. thanks!

A player, 25 April 2025 17:48

Hm, I feel like I know the answer to this one, but I’ve seen a few surprising answers lately - The event Alliance, Spirit isn’t a viable Clan choice is it? Like, Monk and Ninja were, so … why not? That said, it never dawned on me to consider, but when I started reading the rules section here, I kept seeing that only Sparrow “was a clan only when playing the Stronghold” so … that’d make Spirit an official clan as they have a Stronghold, no?

saaam (not official), 25 April 2025 17:51

Depends on the format. If you're playing Jade / Open (Clan Wars + Jade) arcs, then it should be a valid choice.

A player, 25 April 2025 17:52

Ah, ok, very interesting. Thank you!

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 April 2025 17:53 · in reply

Also in Legacy Formats, yes, Spirit is a Faction, but in some, its Stronghold is banned. This doesn't make it "not a Faction", though.

A player, 25 April 2025 17:55

Ah, yes, understood. I realize it probably would have been helpful to clarify that I was looking at a silly Jade ex. (Cutting off at Spirit Wars) deck and noticed I had a handful of Spirits in it. I couldn’t argue in my head why it wouldn’t work, but it also just felt weird (especially as some were pre-Spirit Wars).

saaam (not official), 25 April 2025 17:56

Cards were released within arcs building up to future strongholds. Quite common.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 April 2025 17:57

Or just "were" before they became a Faction. Plenty of pre-DJH Ninja. 😉

A player, 25 April 2025 17:57

Thank you very much for your time!

A player, 25 April 2025 18:18

Huh, another weird question I suspect I know the answer to (and was likely common at one point in time, if correct) if I use Dragon Pearl on Blade of Secrets, does it copy the bonuses already generated by playing the original Blade of Secrets and will it also trigger the opportunity to discard for an additional bonus again for coming into play? Or would it do some partial version of any of that?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 April 2025 18:24 · in reply

Yes it copies the current permanent bonuses already on the original Blade, and no you can't discard again. But all that is pretty evident in either copy of the Pearl's text.

A player, 25 April 2025 18:24

Ok, thanks

A player, 25 April 2025 18:27

Yup, sorry, I should have re-read it. I was reading a similar situation last night that revolved around the broken sword of the scorpion and Immortal Steel, didn’t stop to think about the entering play element.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 April 2025 18:28 · in reply

S'okay. 🙂

A player, 25 April 2025 18:28

Thank you again, I appreciate the time!