Oracle of the Void #rules

Quick check, does Yari of Air get the gold reduction with the Dark Ring of Air and/or False Ring of Air?

Printed text mention 'the' before the name of the card it was intended to have interaction with, but oracle wording now mentions 'a'. Inclined to say yes at this point, but opted to confirm here.

Unsure if it'll also be worth considering updating the oracle wording from 'a Ring of Air' to 'a Ring card with the Air keyword' for more clarify.

Also, correlated the wording for cards that reference other card types (like personalities) with the x keyword. So far, I was able to see 'Air Shugenja' with Illusory Defense and 'Shugenja is Air' for Bushido's Scourge.

Currently, the confusion stems from the card name being the same as the combined card type and element keyword. Thanks!

Exactly. Obvious at the time.

Just one hiccup, the following lost the part about their GC being set to 0 Gunsen of Water #cardid=2923 Armor of Earth #cardid=438 Mempo of the Void #cardid=5023

It was available in cumulative FAQ page on AEG website

https://web.archive.org/web/20030417025737/http://legendofthefiverings.com/ccg/rules.html

just check Rules link in CCG part

https://web.archive.org/web/20040805022909/http://l5r.alderac.com/rulings/

I remember when those changes were made. My first deck was the House of Tao (Brotherhood of Shinsei version) and was excited to play the Dragon Clan version...and then saw the errata shortly after 😭

Does the Invest in this card allow me to choose any ability or must it be the same ability I previously resolved?

This is just thread from Rules section of AEG forum, where poeple were asking for questions. I tried to download it years ago, but it's shattered pile of single html files, but it's searchable.

Yep. It's just kind of copy of part of public posts

You must follow order of effects.

Anyway with this action you may Melee into Personality A and destroy attachment equipped to Personality B

Destroying attachment and then ranged/melee/destroy would be a powerful effect. Reversed order is much more popular.

Can I use the above card from a Courtier in my home, if I have no personalities at the battle?

It'll depend on which ruleset you're using, I believe.

Usually you'd need to have presence, but I think that got changed in some of the latter arcs.

That's dissemination I have like 9 cards in my deck currently that operate like that and they don't feel very powerful at all under those circumstances lol

Disheartening

No.

Nothing changed for cards like this through the whole time. To work without Presence such card should have "Even if you dont have any Personalities in current battlefied" or just Absent designator.

Only change was for cards that move into battle.

Interesting. I thought that at one point things were changed enough that if it targeted something in the present battle, it would work.

Ahh.

Pre Ivory card that moves into battle creates and satisfies Presence.

Gotcha.

Yeah. Back in the day®, it was fun to drop a Fall on Your Knees or Bad Karma to cancel the attacker's action without presence.

playing reactions this way was 1995-2014 😉 but in Ivory you can cancel Engage action, so eg you can stop rulebook Cavalry movement without Presence 😄

Ugh. That's... interesting.

in Ivory Cavalry is rulebook once per turn Engage ability

Right.

i don't. mostly. new cavalry, new naval, open equip, double sided strongholds = yes. gold pooling, interrupts - hmm... at least they tried to make another "interrupt" window after action's resolution in onyx.

The lack of gold pooling was such a notable factor, though. It defined most of the game's history and deckbuilding and playing.

when they introduced gold pooling they shoul think more about holdings and throw out all ones that produce more than cost (like clan holdings!). 1st turn gold production was so important in ivory as it snowballed from there much faster than in old system

of course they were going to remove such holdings in onyx, but... was too late of course.

mantis playing some senseis to get negative honor to activate second side of stronghold and additional gold = dominance

with god draw, mantis could buy 3 clan holdings first turn and it could create 13 gold to spend on turn 2

and we are talking about non corrupt holdings

just clan holdings

Traits don't continue to exist, only abilities, such as Battle/Open/Limited/Reaction.

Ninja Stronghold CAN pay for those, because it's not a variable cost card, and it's a Ninja card.

Yeah, Gold was weird.

Generally, it was just starting family honour, after the Sensei mod was applied. For a while it was a deck cut, which led to a lot of cheating.

Sometimes we did FH + cut FV, to try and change things up a bit, but not hugely.

Yeah, Shioda should be able to bow your own Temple of Osano-Wo, by the Foo Rule.

I don't get the question about Kamoko's Charge, because it's a blanket effect. So if your Xieng Chi is still Cavalry, then she'd get the bonus.

I was wondering if she got the additional +1 force bonus from her own trait, but I assumed not because kamoko's charge doesn't target

Yeah. Traits are "on" all the time, unless otherwise indicated, but disappear when overlayed or the card is "blanked" via an effect.

Correct.

I see the confusion. They mean "Charge", the card titled just that, but, yeah.

Unicorn got a huuuuge boost in HE4, when they got The Otaku Palaces. And a few key personalities.

It was a good time to play 'Corn, because you could do it on a budget.

Ayup.

I also can't understate how huuuuuge Silk Works was.

Well, for Unicorn and Mantis.

For almost everyone else, The Hiruma Dojo was monumental in gold schemes.

Yep

Thats also why when focusing was mandatory from the deck, dueling decks were running cards like this.

About discarding, that was also a kind of win condition 😉

And thanks for the confirmation 👍

But there are is/was also nasty faceless control deck in legacy that kills everything and is counting down with doom of the dark lord

There's a few cards that can destroy them, such as Kolat Assassin.

awesome, thank you!

No. There's nothing mechanical about Retainer. Anyway in 20F mechanical keywords are in bold

I appreciate the answer!

Building gold scheme was very interesting : what are the cost of my personalities ? what are the holdings actions I want to put in ? How to build a gold scheme in order to minimize the emperor taxes ? Gold pool was confusing (you had to remember how gold you have spend from the pool) and annoying. Cavalry was no more cavalry, but a pedestrian army with one pony. And actions were : -2F, or +1F... In short, the end of the CCG heralded what the LCG would be. The epic blast of this outstanding game was already gone. MHO.

I don't think so. I remember that in Samurai people were playing same Holdings all the time: clan holdings, 1-2 Legacy (Private Trader and Seat of Power), Famous Bazaar, Secluded Waystation, Shrine to Fukurokujin, Secluded Village (if you was low honor clsn) + 3-4 slots depending on deck type. That was boring. 😄 And is i checked there were nearly 100 Holdings legal in Samurai environment 😉

This is a game with a resource system - there is no reason it can't also be interesting

But, as i said above, well named Holding with flavour abilities also add value to game itself. And that what they did in Ivory/20F. I want to say, that system was okish, but design was not - it was so easy to abuse gold and it snowballed much, much faster than in earlier editions.

"No free gold" or "no Holdings with production > cost" should be golden rule of Ivory holding design

"Cavalry was no more cavalry, but a pedestrian army with one pony" - Cavalry finally became movement, not outmaneuver and "lets meet on last Province" thing. 😉

Does this card makes Personalities that normally don't have an honor requirement now have an honor requirement of 10?

Nope.

Nil is nil. Adding 10 to nil is still nil.

"-" HR is not zero.

Ok thanks, playing a multi-player War of Honor game here over the weekend and I just wanted to know before hand. My friend plays a Mantis deck that unfortunately only has like 3 or personalities that have any honor requirement, was hoping this might affect him but I figured as much.