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I'm in the process of inventorying weird printings and reprints, and this seems like as good a channel to ask odd printing questions in as any.
Can anyone confirm if the 5 Koku / 10 Koku / 20 Koku premium slot cards (on the backs of the draft strongholds) exist for Thunderous Acclaim (I think yes) and/or Evil Portents (I think no)?
I will take a look in the near future; all my Premium stuff from Ivory forward got sorted into one or two boxes earlier this year so I should have a clear yes or no
Very much appreciated!
Can confirm Evil Portents has only: 36 different proxy cards and the set of Clan Glory cards
And the Draft Rules card...
yes
Thunderous Acclaim has: Draft Rules, 34 different proxy cards, Clan Glory cards, Koku cards in 5/10/20
While you've got those out and are looking at them, can you confirm that each premium card only has 1 corresponding face of the draft SH?
And because I'm not just a printing data mooch, here's the full list of cards from Crab VS Lion:
very neat, never seen a complete set of it though I have several of the interesting reprint singles (Strongholds, Ikoma, Kuon)
can confirm that for each card with same title and art (or rules, etc.), there is only a single backing of the stronghold
You are my hero, sir.
found out my Conscript proxies were not sorted by art this way 😛
And yeah, crab vs. lion is a weird, weird little set. I can confirm that list is complete; I broke a set out of shrink wrap last week (I know, I know...)
eh sometimes you just gotta to know what's in there
for science
Exactly that. I couldn't even FIND a card list for that set, so I was like, well...
I clearly have them all, let's go exploring!
Also, having a full set ... I have no idea how those cards were selected.
Weirdest product in L5R
39 cards total? yeah v strange
Also, for people who care about the various rule cards and miscellanea, the turn sequence card from that product is unique
gonna say 2nd weirdest
Yeah, it's like they had a pile of Pearl stock that they just repackaged into the TopDeck boosters.
@saaam Except no, those Top Deck Pearl cards have unique text and backs.
"Action:" even weirder than "O:"
it's the repackaging of always-on traits as Actions for me (see Kamoko)
Top Deck: Learn to Play... a significantly different game, actually. ;P
Oh really. That's even weirder.
Yeah, the O: misprint of Imperial Evil Portents. I used to have a playset of those back in the day.
Yeah, okay, the Top Deck Booster Pack was a truly bizarre object.
The cards they chose for that are bizarre too.
Especially the personalities, who I assume were intended to be representative of the 7 great clans.
But those range from one of the game's most iconic characters (Unicorn), to sort of tolerable (Crab, Scorpion, I guess Crane), to bizarre never-was people that had to have their entire mechanics filed off for the mini set rules (Dragon and especially Phoenix).
So maybe someone here has done insight. GenCon '05 determined the future of the card game at that time, where a Pure deck would lead us into Lotus Edition but a Shadowlands deck would have brought upon "Dark Lotus" edition. Was any story or card design ever done in the event a Shadowlands outcome had happened?
I know Emperor Toturi III was torn up by Eric because the winning deck ran Shadow Dragon but was curious if there was any work done in the event it was a corrupt response
I believe that's how A Thousand Years of Darkness came about, as a "What If?" set.
No. KYD was Gold/Diamond changeover.
Oh? Neat. Thought that Diamond came after Lotus, but you're right. I skipped Diamond/Lotus and nearby.
It went:
Clan Wars Jade Gold Diamond Lotus Samurai Celestial Emperor Ivory 20F
I did Clan Wars, Jade, and early Gold, then took a break, somewhere in there played in the Kotei where the Saori deck was still pre-MRP, then a few sets of Celestial, and then stopped. Right when I wanted to get back in, within a few months, the sale/termination was announced.
I'm kinda sad that I missed out on Emperor, especially around Ninja-lite®, meaning The Shadow's Lair.
Though I've not been able to find decklists that used it, so it doesn't sound too viable.
It was brutal, in the right hands.
??? Dropbox - Decks/Emperor - anything starting with SP-TSL SP-TSL-CoM or SP-TSL-GoC are from finish of edition (after Coils of Madness and Gates of Chaos)
Oh sweet, thanks!
https://jlsumerlin.wixsite.com/onyx-lives--project
Do you know if there is a public spreadsheet with all printed cards? or a sql database where one can run custom queries? I would like to know stuff like: - all personalities of a given clan that were printed only once - all unique rare strategies sorted by edition, set and alphabetically
You could query the Oracle API and use jq to filter down the results for things it doesn't support.
I don't have a method for "only printed once" but the rest is implemented in the Oracle API
thanks a player, I've doing that, but for I more familiar with sql, so I wondered if there is a SQL database, instead of trying to build my from the API data
yeah, my second example wasn't that good, but I guess I'll continue using the API, thanks for your quick response
Printed only once would be rough with all the Soul ofs...
The data doesn't model well into SQL. The first version was SQL based but the joins got crazy.
Now it's basically elastic search.
yeah, I can imagine, If you still have the sql and are willing to share it, I'll really appreciate it, it could make some of my queries easier.
Shoot me an email at oracle@oracleofthevoid.com
If you promise not to publish it on the internet I should be able to hook you up
I sure will, thank you very much
sure, thanks
The SQL version is technically still running because sun and moon needs it
ohh, nice to know. I'll get familiar with oracle code, I would love to propose a couple of PRs 🙂
Sure thing. Right now what is public is the jQuery based front end that exercises API calls. If you want to look at the API code itself let me know what your GitHub ID is and I can give you access (NDA on that part... I mostly don't want it published so people can't look through it is easy to exploit it if there's an issue).
awesome, sure thing. I'm already writing you the email.
Remind me of all these details in the email, I'm in the middle of a major data center relocation, so I'm a little frazzled.
don't worry, I wish you everything goes well
Speaking of, any chance the database kept the initial "as printed" text somewhere?
Where that exists, it's in the latest version.
printed_text
Oh sweet.
API docs talk about it
Or if you run the JavaScript console, you can see when the data gets returned and just expand it and look at it.
It's on my list of things to eventually do to have a button that can toggle to original text, etc
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