Rules for 31 January 2005

Your Rules for Monday, January 31, 2005

Uso Sensei and Feign death

That makes no sense. The guy can't die twice first of all. When guys die they die.

Unless their dying gets stopped by Golden Obi of the Sun Goddess, or Iron Pillar, or they get brough back to life with "Feign Death."

Also, how does the timing work here? I mean, Uso Sensei is a trait, not an action, so wouldn't the two deaths happen at the same time, And therefore allowing you to FD the second one?

Get to know the Accumulated Rulings:

"If an effect creates additional results for winning or losing a duel (e.g., Uso Sensei): - Multiple results apply in the order they're written. [JA, email, 9 December 2004] - If another result of winning or losing is added, it is appended to the ones that already exist (if any). [JA, email, 9 December 2004]" (Accumulated Rulings, "Duels")

Appended means "added on to the end of the list."

Suitengu's Surge questions

I am basically confused about the whole "Before an action targets a unit" and then what happens to the action after the targeting fails.......

The targeting Does Not Fail. The card was Targeted, and that's what created the legal trigger to use Suitengu's Surge.

"The "before an action targets" clause only puts the timing for this spell ahead of "when" and "after" actions target; the unit is still targeted. [ML, 14 January 2005]" (Accumulated Rulings, "Suitengu's Surge")

Occult Murder's: Surge should not even work with this card correct?

Correct. Surge says, "Before an action targets a unit you control," and Occult Murder does not have any Actions on it.

Price of Power: This should work, but what happens? Say its my Price of Power and I target my guy who has the surge on him, I react with the surge. What happens now? do I continue the action based on the guy I tried to target, or do I now have to choose another of my personalities?

The action continues to play through, but any effects on the now illegal target will fail, as per this ruling:

"If one or more of an action's targets become illegal between when they are chosen and when the action begins to resolve, that action will not affect those targets. This remains true even if they become illegal, then return to being legal. [JA, 15 June 2004; 22 June 2004]" (Accumulated Rulings, "Actions and abilities")

Kolat Assassin: my opponent try's to target one of my guys, I surge, does my opponent now get a chance to target someone else?

No. Same as the entry above.

Suitengu's Surge w/ Yodin Sensei (was Re: [L5R-CCG] Rules for 24 January 2005 [RULES])

First, as a note, if you want me to answer a question, don't post a reply with the same header as my daily digest. That's the whole "Clear and Distinct subject line" clause I put at the end of my posts.

As for the question:

Please answer this question. I have Yodin sensei. Or maybe it is a multiplayer games and somebody has Yodin Sensei in the game. I have the most personalities on the board. My opponent has targetted three of my personalities with actions and I have used Suitengu's Surge on all three in response. ( I have three of the spells in play or I had a ring of air and two spells in play.) I still have the most personalities on the board. Who gets to decide which personality enters play due to surge.

[MARTY] Active player chooses. The Active player is the player whose turn "before the beginning of" references on Suitengu's Surge.

That player choose the order in which the units will attempt to return to play.

More importantly What happens to the other two personalities that have been surged. Are they ever allowed to reenter play?

No. Surge tries to return them once. If that effect fails, they remain out of play and Surge never tries to bring them back again.

- Marty Lund Deputy Rules Monkey

Shosuro Saemon and Ranged Attacks

If I target Shosuro Saemon with a Ranged Attack (at least Range 2), what happens?

Um ... traits and Reactions triggering off of Targeting are played?

If what you are trying to ask here is, "What happens if I respond to Saemon being targeted by a Ranged Attack by giving him a follower, thereby making him an illegal target for the Ranged Attack," then I've got an answer for you.

"If one or more of an action's targets become illegal between when they are chosen and when the action begins to resolve, that action will not affect those targets. This remains true even if they become illegal, then return to being legal. [JA, 15 June 2004; 22 June 2004]" (Accumulated Rulings, "Actions and abilities")

The Action with the Ranged Attack happens, but it has no effect on Saemon.

question forward

Title Glory of the Shogun Rarity Rare Edition Web of Lies Text For the rest of the game, attaching cards from player's hands to their Personalities is an Open action. Additionally, each player may draw a card once per turn after attaching from his hand a card with a Gold cost greater than 4.

OK my question is: does this count printed Gold cost or actual Gold cost paid?

It counts the current gold cost of the follower when played - not the printed cost. If you reduce the cost below 5, then it won't count.

That should cover everything from Monday the 31th. If I missed your question, please repost it with the flag [RULES] as part of your Clear and Distinct subject line. I'll get back to you at the first opportunity.