post for 1 July 2002

Jeff Alexander, sent 2 July 2002 to the l5r-ccg mailing list, the l5r-useful list

A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

mini-post for the 28th of June

I wonder...

Taisa works any number of times, but only on actions before the Defender's first *chance* to take a Battle or Open action.

So, basically if the opponent plays a sneak attack, and drops a night battle, you can then cancel it with taisa. Then if they also have a scout and play a deadly ground, you can cancel that too?

Yes and yes.

How about if your attacker plays a night battle (and you have no defending shadowlands or shugenja of course) with a scout and you do nothing about it... can it be assumed that since you have no *chance* to perform any actions now, that you can cancel any and all actions the attacker tries with Taisa now?

You still have all the usual chances to take an action or pass. You can't use Taisa willy-nilly.

A Samurai's Fury [Rules Q]

I have a quick question about A Samurai's Fury. A Samurai's Fury says, "Reaction: Play this card after a Delayed Terrain resolves. Take an Open or Battle action."

Honor's Lesson Dojo says, "Unique. Reaction: Bow after all players pass consecutively in a battle and before delayed terrains resolve to perform one Battle or Open action."

Now, it looks to me like A Samurai's Fury and Honor's Lesson Dojo were intended to work pretty much the same as each other. My question is, do they?

They're similar but not identical.

Is there a "Delayed Terrain" section of the Battle Action segment that takes place immediately after both players pass?

It's actually immediately before the Battle Action Segment ends, but that distinction is more technical than practical.

Specifically, can you play A Samurai's Fury when a Delayed Terrain would resolve or does there have to be an actual physical Delayed Terrain card (or Mystical Terrain, etc) in play for this battle to play A Samurai's Fury?

There must be an actual Delayed Terrain resolving for A Samurai's Fury to be legal. The same is NOT true for Honor's Lesson Dojo.

Asaku Yuya-Light a candle-let the madness begin...

Yet another rules quandry, and again, I begin with the relevant card texts:

Asaku Yuya: <trait>Once per turn, Yuya may bow a spell instead of herself as a cost of casting that spell. (A spell cannot be cast while it is bowed)

Light a Candle: <Limited>Bow this shugenja, who may remain bowed. While this Shugenja remains bowed and in play, your Personalities gain +1C.

Now, I remember a ruling not too long ago, but couldn't find it in the archive on AEG's page. But, the gist of it is that you can bow the spell to cast it while Yuya is bowed.

That WAS the ruling. It has since been reversed. Both Shugenja and Spell must be unbowed or it can't be cast.

Rules Question (JEFF)

Hi Jeff, I've got a timing question for you. When exactly does a battle end?

At the end of resolution, barring a card that ends it prematurely. [DA rulebook p. 58]

What I'm trying to figure out is if Rallying Cry occurs during the battle (albiet at the very tail end) or after the battle.

After.

By my reading of the Rulebook regarding "After a Battle" (DA page 57-58) once a battle has resolved you may first take reactions to resolution then take reactions to the end of the battle. This would mean that the battle isn't "over" until after all reactions to resolution have resolved.

Not true. Reactions played at or after the end of a phase don't make that phase last longer.

Next question. Gift of the Water Dragon and Torrential Rain. Relevant text on Gift of the Water Dragon: Other players' card effects cannot bow cards in that unit or remove that unit from its new Province for the rest of the attack. Torrential Rain reads: Elemental Battle: Bow this Shugenja and destroy this Spell to end this battle without resolution. All units go home bowed. My question is: If my personality is under the effects of Gift of the Water Dragon and my opponent uses Torrential Rain, does my personality go home UNbowed?

All cards in that unit return to their controller's fief unbowed, since this is still the same attack.

I would say yes as long as this battle was not occuring at the player's last province.

I'd say they're protected even then. The attack ends a measurable time after the last battle ends.

Encircled Terrain Question

If a bowed unit is Ambushed, can the defender play Encircled Terrain to send his unit home even though/because it is bowed?

It is legal to play Encircled Terrain. If it's played, and its player's one unit in the ambush is still bowed at the end of the battle, it cannot be selected as the single unit on his side that stays and is sent home by the terrain.

Asahina Sekawa EXP

Is Sekawa considered a Jade card?

Yes.

Broken Blades - new scorpion samurai

Was this card really needed? You might argue that the 0 honor requirement will keep most Scorpion players from using it, however I predict we're going to see a lot of Crane dishonor decks with Scorpion Personalities in them after Broken Blades comes out. Was this card playtested?

Yes.

Any reason why it couldn't at least have been made unique?

There were two other Unique Scorpions in that set already -- Experienced ones, in fact, so we couldn't take the trait off them. We don't go above two Uniques when there are only five Personalities to a clan.

Warriors/Wayan Rules Q

Greetings!

Someone recently asked whether the Tattoo tokens which Hoshi Wayan Exp2 gives to himself count towards the Force bonus which the Follower Warriors of the Great Climb give to themselves.

They don't.

It appears to me that the Warriors look for the Tattoo keyword on their Personality.

They actually count the tattoos given by Tattoo cards, which don't add "Tattoo" traits to the Personality.

Imperial Scrutiny Q

Question about Imperial Scrutiny, which reacts to a player losing honour due to one of his own cards. The situation is that I'm the guy trying to play Imperial Scrutiny. May I play it if my opponent:

Commits sepukku to reduce an honour loss (that I am giving to him, from, say a Shame) to 1?

No. He is not causing himself a 1 point loss. He is reducing a loss you're causing from its original amount down to 1. The source is still your Shame.

Has a card with an honour loss on it, and I target it with Soshi Eiji?

No. The loss is from Eiji. Eiji even says so.

Question?

When I play 'Bend Like a Reed', am I targeting my personality and if so can I still play 'BLaR' when my pesonality is bowed?

Yes, no.

Same question but lets say I want to cast 'Double Chi' and target one of my bowed personalities who was entering a duel, could I even though he/she is bowed?

No.

Crab Rant

Well, we have gone and done it. Won and placed with corruption! Won with Honor Runner !

No. The Crab deck that won San Antonio was a military Kyuden Hida deck. It approached 40 and effectively won an Honor Victory in the final game with the help of its one single Sanctified Temple during an arms race with another Kyuden Hida military deck, but it was NOT an honor deck.

Origins Imperial Favour rules?!

Will Origins be run with Classic Favour or Winds rules?

Historic Favor usage is an optional rule. The Open tournament at Origins will use Winds.

Faith in my clan vs. Flattery

Say my opponent plays Flattery, can I wait till they dump their entire hand before I play Faith in my clan?

Not only can you, you have to. It's a cost of playing Flattery.

Art work trend....

Recently someone posted the revelation that experienced Jade Champion Sekawa looks a hell of a lot like Bruce Wills, and now the Berserker Rage card and crab clan box are depicting The Rock (ala scorpion king) as Koun......

Our art director is a huge wrestling fan. In fact, he's probably too much of a fan, since he sees more differences between that picture of Kuon and The Rock than he sees similarities and does not agree with you that there's a resemblence.

Stand Against the Waves

Help!

I keep looking at this card, my intuition tells me it is a good one, but I can't for the life of me figure it out. Reading it over and ver I deduce that my opponent must bow as many peeps with no followers as I have, and if he can't he, all opposing peeps get bowed.

Not all opposing, just all opposing with no Followers. It's to avoid people saying, "Well, I have to bow four, but I only have two, so since I can't bow four I don't have to do anything." (The card is from before the era where the All Cards Resolve As Thoroughly As Possible rule came into full force.)

Usefull for multyplayer, but I am missing something. Am I not?

Other posters have already addressed the regionality and potential strength of this card quite well.