Rules for January 31st, addendum

Vaughn Derderian, sent 31 January 2001 to the l5r-useful list, L5RINFO

A rules digest from the L5R CCG rules team, copied from the mailing list archive for Oracle of the Void. The askers' names are left out. Rulings are as they stood on this date; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

Yoshi Sensei says "Your card effects do not cause honor losses for other players."

Imperial Funeral says "Starting with the current player and going clockwise, each player in turn has one chance to bow any or all personalities they control, and gain 1 honor for each personality that does so. Players lose 3 honor for each personality that remains unbowed, and these personalities are dishonored."

Now the question is, does Imperial Funeral cause the honor loss, and is thus prohibited from effect by Yoshi Sensei?

Yup.

Or does Imperial Funeral give *other players cards* the ability to cause a card effect that results in an honor loss?

I see it as the second option, since IF gives each player a choice (forced or not) about whether or not he incurs an honor loss, with the deciding factor lying in his own cards, not the IF.

Zen, clarification please?

You know, I probably wouldn't have answered this right away, if it hadn't been for the fact that you went over my helmet!

Dude, I'm right here. I just answered a bunch of questions earlier today. Am I not good enough for you?!? (*sob*)

I'll just be over in the corner, sulking. Right after I explain that Imperial Funeral is still the card causing the honor loss, just like Iaijutsu Challenge is still the card causing that honor loss, even though it was the decision of another player to make it do so. Unless a card specifically and explicitly says that the personality making the choice is forced to cause the honor loss, the card itself is considered to be causing the loss.