Before this turn ends and end phase

L5R CCG Rules board, 15 June 2012

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A player, 15 June 2012

I just wanted to be sure that a trigger that is "before this turn ends" occurs after you discard during your end phase.

From the rules:

End Phase During the End phase, steps A and B happen in order: A. Draw a card. The active player draws a card from his or her Fate deck. This card draw is not optional. Effects that modify card draw "during" the End Phase are applied at this point. Example: A card effect that makes you “draw an additional card during the End Phase” makes you draw two cards instead of one at this step. You may not draw the additional card after you have discarded in step B. B. Discard to maximum hand size. If the player has more Fate cards in hand than his or her maximum hand size, which is normally 8, the player must discard cards from his or her hand, one by one, until his or her number of cards in hand is no longer greater than the maximum size. A player may not choose to discard more cards than necessary through this procedure. Subsequent to the end of the End Phase, the player's turn ends. The next player in turn order becomes the active player.

So the turn ends at the end of your end phase. During the end phase you discard down to your maximum hand size. A trigger that occurs before the turn ends would trigger after you had discarded down to maximum hand size. Is this correct?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 15 June 2012

So the turn ends at the end of your end phase. During the end phase you discard down to your maximum hand size. A trigger that occurs before the turn ends would trigger after you had discarded down to maximum hand size. Is this correct?

Correct.