Lady Matsu's Rage vs Kakita Kae

L5R CCG Rules board, 25 May 2012

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A player, 25 May 2012

Lady Matsu's Rage - Battle: Choose your performing unbowed attacking Personality, target an enemy card, and discard this card: Bow the target. After the next time (this turn) it straightens, destroy it.

Kakita Kae - After a Battle action targets Kae, you may discard the Imperial Favor: If you did, negate Kae's destruction, bowing, and movement from the action's effects.

I know that I can negate Kae's bowing from Matsu's Rage's Battle action. I just wanted to confirm that if she happens to bow sometime later on but then straightens, that the destruction part of Matsu's Rage's effect would also be negated.

It seems like the destruction should be negated but the delayed timing of the destruction was something that I wanted to check on.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 25 May 2012

Lady Matsu's Rage - Battle: Choose your performing unbowed attacking Personality, target an enemy card, and discard this card: Bow the target. After the next time (this turn) it straightens, destroy it.

Kakita Kae - After a Battle action targets Kae, you may discard the Imperial Favor: If you did, negate Kae's destruction, bowing, and movement from the action's effects.

I know that I can negate Kae's bowing from Matsu's Rage's Battle action. I just wanted to confirm that if she happens to bow sometime later on but then straightens, that the destruction part of Matsu's Rage's effect would also be negated.

It seems like the destruction should be negated but the delayed timing of the destruction was something that I wanted to check on.

Kae's negation lasts for the same duration as the delayed effect, until the turn ends, so she would not be destroyed by Lady Matsu's Rage's delayed effect.