The Great Silence

L5R CCG Rules board, 1 March 2012 to 2 March 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 1 March 2012

Hi,

I have to different questions about "The Great Silence".

1/One player uses ambush, maybe the active player but we do not care about. Within that combat segment, a player uses The Great Silence. Until when can't nobody play strategy ? - 1 - The active player chooses : the end of the current combat segment or the end of the current action phase. - 2 - The Kiho's player chooses. - 3 - The Ambush's player chooses. - 4 - There is no choice to make.

2/Refering to past rulings about the Ring of the Void (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=96015#p1270347), Can you confirm that there is no link between playing a strategy card and using an action on a strategy card in play ? Someone uses The Great Silence. Can anyone use the Political Reaction granted by the Destructive Priorities Kata card while the kiho prevent players to play strategies ?

Card text: The Great Silence: Battle/Open: Bow your performing Monk or Shugenja: No Strategies can be played until after the end of this Action Phase or Combat Segment. Ambush: Limited: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target another player's Personality: Create a battlefield (not at any province). Assign your Personality to attack there. Assign the target to defend there, even if he is bowed. Other Personalities will not move there. Fight a battle there (after this action's resolution). After the battle ends, lose 5 Honor. Destructive Priorities: You have the ability, "Political Reaction: Before you gain Honor during your turn, bow your performing Courtier: Negate the gain. Choose a player. He loses 2 Honor."

Thanks in advance, Regards, Rémi.

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 2 March 2012

Hi,

I have to different questions about "The Great Silence".

1/One player uses ambush, maybe the active player but we do not care about. Within that combat segment, a player uses The Great Silence. Until when can't nobody play strategy ? - 1 - The active player chooses : the end of the current combat segment or the end of the current action phase. - 2 - The Kiho's player chooses. - 3 - The Ambush's player chooses. - 4 - There is no choice to make.

2/Refering to past rulings about the Ring of the Void (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=96015#p1270347), Can you confirm that there is no link between playing a strategy card and using an action on a strategy card in play ? Someone uses The Great Silence. Can anyone use the Political Reaction granted by the Destructive Priorities Kata card while the kiho prevent players to play strategies ?

Card text: The Great Silence: Battle/Open: Bow your performing Monk or Shugenja: No Strategies can be played until after the end of this Action Phase or Combat Segment. Ambush: Limited: Choose your performing unbowed Personality and target another player's Personality: Create a battlefield (not at any province). Assign your Personality to attack there. Assign the target to defend there, even if he is bowed. Other Personalities will not move there. Fight a battle there (after this action's resolution). After the battle ends, lose 5 Honor. Destructive Priorities: You have the ability, "Political Reaction: Before you gain Honor during your turn, bow your performing Courtier: Negate the gain. Choose a player. He loses 2 Honor."

Thanks in advance, Regards, Rémi.

1. The answer is 4, there is no choice to make. A duration that ends at "X or Y" ends whenever either occurs, so whichever comes first, which in your example would be at the end of the Ambush Combat Segment.

2. I can confirm that "play a Strategy" =/= "use an action on a card in play". Play, definition: "As a verb, “play” can refer to: ... using a Strategy card by putting it into the resolution area..."