Asako Karachu vs. Togashi Hizumi

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 January 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 10 January 2012

Greetings!

Player A has Asako Karachu in a battle. Player B uses a card effect to bow karachu and uses the reaction of Togashi Hizumi to prevent Karachu from straightening. Since traits come first before actions, does karachu still straiten from player B's bowing action, and will later be prevented from straightening the next time he bows?

Asako Karachu After Karachu bows: Straighten him.

Togashi Hizumi Reaction: After the resolution of an action that bowed a Personality at Hizume's battlefield, target the Personality: Negate his straightening (this turn). Battle: Give the current battlefield's province +4 or -4 strength.

Thanks!

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 10 January 2012

Greetings!

Player A has Asako Karachu in a battle. Player B uses a card effect to bow karachu and uses the reaction of Togashi Hizumi to prevent Karachu from straightening. Since traits come first before actions, does karachu still straiten from player B's bowing action, and will later be prevented from straightening the next time he bows?

Asako Karachu After Karachu bows: Straighten him.

Togashi Hizumi Reaction: After the resolution of an action that bowed a Personality at Hizume's battlefield, target the Personality: Negate his straightening (this turn). Battle: Give the current battlefield's province +4 or -4 strength.

Thanks!

Here's the sequence:

1. Player B begins resolving his action's effects. One of them is to bow Karachu. 1b. Immediately after Karachu bows, his trait straightens him. 2. Player B's action finishes resolving. 2b. Player B may now react with Hizumi to the resolution, since the action DID bow Karachu, targeting him and negating any of his future straightening until the turn ends.