Dueling Question (corrected)/once per turn rule

L5R CCG Rules board, 8 January 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 8 January 2012

Kakita Daiki from Drums of War

Daiki may overlay any non-Unique Crane Clan Personality you control. While Daiki overlays another card he has +2F and the ability: "Battle: Target an opposing Personality. Daiki issues him an unrefusable challenge."

I should have stated my question better also. We only play legacy and War of Honor. In regards to that, does the destruction by default apply?

I am really new to the game so we have just been playing as best as we could. Now that we are trying to organize some events locally, we just want to actually figure out how to handle interactions between older cards and newer ones under the latest rules. If a card is printed prior to Khans Defiance the older rules apply and after the newer rules? does the same hold for the Duelist trait even though it has been updated for EE?

Lastly, does the once per turn rule on a printed action only apply on cards Khans Defiance and up?

sorry to bomb you with questions, no one locally has any clue and we are teaching ourselves.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 8 January 2012

Kakita Daiki from Drums of War

Daiki may overlay any non-Unique Crane Clan Personality you control. While Daiki overlays another card he has +2F and the ability: "Battle: Target an opposing Personality. Daiki issues him an unrefusable challenge."

I should have stated my question better also. We only play legacy and War of Honor. In regards to that, does the destruction by default apply?

I am really new to the game so we have just been playing as best as we could. Now that we are trying to organize some events locally, we just want to actually figure out how to handle interactions between older cards and newer ones under the latest rules. If a card is printed prior to Khans Defiance the older rules apply and after the newer rules? does the same hold for the Duelist trait even though it has been updated for EE?

Lastly, does the once per turn rule on a printed action only apply on cards Khans Defiance and up?

sorry to bomb you with questions, no one locally has any clue and we are teaching ourselves.

As a general (but not hard and fast) rule, when playing with cards older than the current base set, people tend to use the Legacy format rules rather than the current rulebook. You'll probably want to take some time to familiarize yourselves with the rules changes on that page.

Specificially, there is a page explaining how older cards are worded differently than current and how that affects the way in which they are played. It will show you the break points for when changes occurred based on printing.

So to answer specifically:

For cards printed to Khan's Defiance, duels are fatal by default.

For cards printed prior to Dawn of the Empire, and non-Lotus bugged cards in Dawn of the Empire, the once per turn rule does not apply by default.

Duelist, at present, has not been changed for cards printed prior to Emperor Edition. These Personalities should be played under Emperor Edition rules.

And welcome to L5R!