A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 30 July 2011
I have doomed undertaking in my discard pile. I use a tactician to play Unshakable to play the terrain. Do all non-shadowlands personalities at the battlefield get a blanket -2F/-1C penalty even though the terrain is no longer in play?
Relevant text:
Doomed Undertaking: Terrain Battle: Non-Shadowlands Personalities have -2F/-1C while at this battlefield.
Unshakable Tactical Battle: Target an Action card in your discard pile. Play it for one of its Battle abilities as an additional action. Remove this card and the target card from the game, even if out of play, after that action ends. (Observe restrictions on the ability's number of uses, such as the default "once per turn.")
Relevant prior ruling. viewtopic.php?p=993234#p993234
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 30 July 2011
I have doomed undertaking in my discard pile. I use a tactician to play Unshakable to play the terrain. Do all non-shadowlands personalities at the battlefield get a blanket -2F/-1C penalty even though the terrain is no longer in play?
No.
Terrains: "If a Terrain leaves play before a battle’s Final Steps, its ongoing effects end, and its delayed effects will no longer be applied."
A player, 30 July 2011
I'm confused about this ruling.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=92900
It was ruled that personalities do not maintain their -2F/-1C for the rest of the battle using Doomed Undertaking+Unshakable.
Previously it was ruled that personalities will remain bowed by Unfamiliar Ground+Unshakable.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75749&p=993235&hilit=unfamiliar#p993235
I'm just confused. I see the explanation but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 30 July 2011
I'm confused about this ruling.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=92900
It was ruled that personalities do not maintain their -2F/-1C for the rest of the battle using Doomed Undertaking+Unshakable.
Previously it was ruled that personalities will remain bowed by Unfamiliar Ground+Unshakable.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75749&p=993235&hilit=unfamiliar#p993235
I'm just confused. I see the explanation but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Bowing is an instantaneous effect. It has no duration to "end" when the Terrain leaves play.
Stat changes, however, are ongoing.