Moshi Kalani exp trait and changing its conditions

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 February 2011

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A player, 17 February 2011

Moshi Kalani exp reads:

Mantis Clan • Samurai • Naval • Commander • Experienced • Unique Kalani has +1F for each other Naval card in his army. Battle: Even if Kalani is bowed: Target your Personality. If his unit assigned to the current battlefield, or if any enemy units are there, move him there. Straighten his unit if he moved.

I understand that cards that set force to zero take into account bonuses from traits, I got that from searching, but I couldn't find the answer to a specific example. Let's say that Kalani is opposing Utaku Fujiko exp. Fujiko exp has the following battle ability:

Battle: Reduce the Force of a target enemy Personality or Follower to 0. Draw a card.

Say Fujiko reduces Kalani's force to zero, and Kalani is in a battlefield with 3 other naval personalities. What if, after the force is set to zero, another naval personality moves into Kalani's battlefield? Would his force then be one or would it still be zero, or one? Additionally, if one of the naval personalities that was at the battlefield when his force was set is sent home and moves back in, would that also contribute? Thanks in advance!

Sorry if this was covered, I tried searching first.

[Mod edit: Typo fixed and color removed. Colors are reserved for mod use, particularly red. Thanks! -ZF]

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 17 February 2011

Moshi Kalani exp: Kalani is opposing Utaku Fujiko exp. Fujiko reduces Kalani's force to zero, and Kalani is in a battlefield with 3 other naval personalities. What if, after the force is set to zero, another naval personality moves into Kalani's battlefield? Would his force then be one or would it still be zero, or one? Additionally, if one of the naval personalities that was at the battlefield when his force was set is sent home and moves back in, would that also contribute?

Here's the bit of rules you want: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_features#S ... to_a_value

"To set a stat to a value, give it the smallest possible appropriate bonus or penalty (or the smallest possible gain or loss, for Honor) such that it reaches that value."

Setting force to zero is just a penalty and follows all the other rules for penalties. It is not permanent and can be changed by later bonuses or penalties.

On: Moshi Kalani, Utaku Fujiko