Swift Counterattack + Equip (attaching)

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 January 2011 to 11 January 2011

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 10 January 2011

Equip: (Equip) Limited: Any number of times per turn, target one of your Personalities: Attach a target attachment card from your hand to him.

Swift Counterattack: Reaction: Before the resolution of a Battle action that was taken as an additional action: Its effects do not happen.

I take an additional battle action. 1.) Announce my target: Shugenja 2.) Payment step: pay 4 gold (for example). 3.) Resolution. Swift Counterattack negates the effects, which were to attach the spell.

Question: a.) Am I out the 4 gold? b.) Where does the spell go? Discard pile or hand?

Thanks!

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 January 2011

I take an additional battle action. 1.) Announce my target: Shugenja 2.) Payment step: pay 4 gold (for example). 3.) Resolution. Swift Counterattack negates the effects, which were to attach the spell.

Am I out the 4 gold?

You've paid. Yes. (See also here: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=87587) (Correction: Gold cost hasn't been paid yet; see post below.)

Where does the spell go? Discard pile or hand?

Nowhere. Nothing happened to it. The reaction hops in between D and E here: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_types#Playing_attachments (Correction: it jumps in before A; see post below.)

A player, 11 January 2011

In response to: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88277

I just wanted know. For the Equip Action, the only Mandatory costs is to target your personality. I am wondering by your ruling how the payment in the resolution part get jumped to the paying gold cost step. Attaching is part of the resolution of a Equip action. You would have to play Swift Counterattack as a reaction to the Equip Action not the Attaching because I would think the timing has already past, because the resolution has started.

Kind of confused.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 11 January 2011

In response to: http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=88277

I just wanted know. For the Equip Action, the only Mandatory costs is to target your personality. I am wondering by your ruling how the payment in the resolution part get jumped to the paying gold cost step. Attaching is part of the resolution of a Equip action. You would have to play Swift Counterattack as a reaction to the Equip Action not the Attaching because I would think the timing has already past, because the resolution has started.

Kind of confused.

Whoops, you're right. Got my action and item costs tangled in there. Sorry.