Utaku Kohana (Experienced) and Personalities with 0F

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 July 2010

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A player, 10 July 2010

Utaku Kohana Unicorn Clan • Samurai • Cavalry • Battle Maiden • Paragon • Experienced • Unique After the resolution of an action which gave a Force penalty to any enemy cards at the current battlefield, if Kohana is there: Gain 1 Honor. Battle: Bow Kohana: Bow a target enemy Personality with lower Personal Honor.

Rules question: If a personality whose Force is already 0 is targeted with a card like Desperate Rush, does Utaku Kohana's trait trigger? More specifically, with minimum Force as 0F, is a force penalty considered applied after 0F?

Togashi Azrael

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 July 2010

(W)ith minimum Force as 0F, is a force penalty considered applied after 0F?

Penalties still occur even after a card has reached its minimum. See: http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Card_features#Calculating_stats

The Experienced Utaku Kohana's trait will go off if a card with 0F gets a -3F penalty, which is then rounded to 0F.