Justly Earned Victory and Plains of Resolution

L5R CCG Rules board, 11 May 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 11 May 2010

This concerns the interaction of Justly Earned Victory second Battle action and Plains of Resolution.

Justly Earned Victory: Battle: Negate all current Force bonuses and penalties to cards at this battlefield from actions.

Plains of Resolution Open: Bow this card: Your target Samurai contributes force while bowed and will not have his force reduced by other players' cards.

If I have targeted my personality with Plains then raised their force through actions, say Charge (Battle: Give a target attacking Personality +2F, or +3F if his is Lion Clan) will the effects of Plains prevent the negation of that personality's force bonus? I am assuming that the personality I tageted with Plains will remain pumped because the negation of their force bonuses would count as lowering their force. Presumably if I am correct it would also prevent Shameful Injury's force bonus negation, though not the secondary prevention of future bonuses.

Shameful Injury Battle: Even if you control no units at the current battlefield: Negate all current Force bonuses and penalties a target Personality has received from actions. Until the turn ends, negate all new Force bonuses or penalties on him from actions.

A player, 11 May 2010

If I have targeted my personality with Plains then raised their force through actions [...] will the effects of Plains prevent the negation of that personality's force bonus?

No the Force bonuses will be negated. As Kaiu Genji explained in "Shameful Injury and Plains of Resolution": "reduced" is the same as "have a penalty applied to" [...] Negation of a force bonus is neither a reduction or a penalty. Shameful Injury will still work on a personality affected by Plains of Resolution's Open action.

As a consequence, Justly Earned Victory will still work too.

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