A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 7 April 2010
Dear Rules Team,
I seek your supreme wisdom and guidance once again, in relation to this ruling (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75813&p=993982&hilit=encircled+impressive#p993982) that was made prior to Celestial Edition. Is there any change in Celestial Edition that would overturn this ruling? I'm not suggesting there is, but would like verification to solve a play-group dispute over the interaction between these 2 cards (if any).
The argument being presented to me is that anything that happens prior to resolution of a battle IS in the combat segment, and therefore Impressive Resilience would stop encircled terrain from moving a personality under its effects home.
Relevant Text
Impressive Resilience: Battle: Give a target opposed Personality +2F. Negate his bowing and movement during the current Combat Segment.
Encircled Terrain: Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, the Attacker and Defender, in the order of your choice, each choose one of their units at the current battlefield. Move all other units there home.
Thanks in advance for enlightening us,
HN
Brook Cunningham (rules official), 7 April 2010
Dear Rules Team,
I seek your supreme wisdom and guidance once again, in relation to this ruling (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75813&p=993982&hilit=encircled+impressive#p993982) that was made prior to Celestial Edition. Is there any change in Celestial Edition that would overturn this ruling? I'm not suggesting there is, but would like verification to solve a play-group dispute over the interaction between these 2 cards (if any).
The argument being presented to me is that anything that happens prior to resolution of a battle IS in the combat segment, and therefore Impressive Resilience would stop encircled terrain from moving a personality under its effects home.
Relevant Text
Impressive Resilience: Battle: Give a target opposed Personality +2F. Negate his bowing and movement during the current Combat Segment.
Encircled Terrain: Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, the Attacker and Defender, in the order of your choice, each choose one of their units at the current battlefield. Move all other units there home.
Thanks in advance for enlightening us,
HN
The original ruling is correct.
Even though the Combat Segment and Resolution Segment happen right next to each other, there is a moment of "neither" in between the two, as there is between all steps in any sequence. This is where triggers "after X ends" and "before X (begins)" live.
http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Timing#Triggers: "A trigger of "after" one step in a sequence ends will happen prior to the trigger of "before" the next step begins. Both triggers happen between the two steps.
Example: A triggered trait with the trigger "after your Dynasty Phase ends" comes before a triggered trait with the trigger "before your End Phase begins,” and happens in neither phase."