Shiba's Guidance + Houhou

L5R CCG Rules board, 18 March 2010 to 19 March 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 18 March 2010

Does Houhou's "if she entered play, Gain 3 Honor" apply only to entering play with her Limited ability? Or does it happen if she enters play outside the Dynasty Phase with the use of a card like Shiba's Guidance? For example, if I am in combat and an opponent attacks me and I use Shiba's Guidance to bring Houhou back into play in the current battle, do I gain her 3 honor for enter play as printed on the card? Thank you.

Alex Jones (rules official), 19 March 2010

Does Houhou's "if she entered play, Gain 3 Honor" apply only to entering play with her Limited ability? Or does it happen if she enters play outside the Dynasty Phase with the use of a card like Shiba's Guidance? For example, if I am in combat and an opponent attacks me and I use Shiba's Guidance to bring Houhou back into play in the current battle, do I gain her 3 honor for enter play as printed on the card? Thank you.

Houhou's ability is Limited: If Houhou is honorably dead: She rises from the ashes. Bring her into play, paying 4 less Gold. If she entered play, gain 3 Honor (this is an Honor gain for entering play).

The honour gain is not a separate trait, it's an effect of the action. If you bring her into play using a different action, you won't gain 3 Honour from her ability.

Note that within the text box of a card, the order of the four parts is fixed: Keywords, Traits, Abilities, Flavour. Once you get to an ability, all the rest is abilities or flavour.