Re: Tactical Actions and "extra time this turn"

L5R CCG Rules board, 24 January 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 24 January 2010

While MacBeth's ruling in the original thread clarifies things somewhat (viewtopic.php?f=59&t=81334) I still have some questions. So, if I use Akodo Senzo's effect (Battle: Target another Personality and choose one of his base abilities; he may use it a second time this turn. You may take another Battle action.) and target Akodo Seiichi after Seiichi uses his Tactician ability (Tactical Battle: Bow Seiichi: Bow each unit opposing him with lower total Force than Seiichi's Force.), MacBeth said that in this case the rulebook limit of one Tactical action would come in to play.

Re-reading the cardinal rules, I come across this entry:

Cards vs. rules: If the text of any card contradicts these Comprehensive Rules, follow the card text, not the rules. Something that changes one aspect of a rule does not by itself change any other aspects of the rule.

So doesn't the Cards vs. Rules, er, rule let Senzo get around the Tactician limitation?

Dan Jacobson (rules official), 24 January 2010

So doesn't the Cards vs. Rules, er, rule let Senzo get around the Tactician limitation?

It must explicitly mention a rule it gets around for it to work as you want.

Hence, while you see phrases like "Even if Bowed" or "Even if XXX is at another location", etc.

I.e. It would have needed the phrase "That Personality may take a second Tactical Action this Turn" to get around the rulebook restriction.