Control and Will

L5R CCG Rules board, 21 December 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 21 December 2009

A couple of questions came up while we were playing this evening.

1) How long does control last? No where on the card does it say until the end of the game, so does it''s effect stop at the end of the turn?

Control reads:

Open: Target your unbowed Samurai: While he remains unbowed and in play, negate all straightening of a target Personality.

2) Also we had a question about Personalities recurred by Will. The question had to with whether a force bonus or penalty on a Personality remains in effect when the Personality is put into the discard pile. If the Personality is recurred by Will on the same turn that he was place in the discard pile, and he had been targeted by a standard Force bonus, would the Personality return with the Force bonus or just his printed stats?

Will reads:

Battle: If you control an opposed unit at the current battlefield, target your dead Samurai Personality: Bring him into play there, paying 2 less Gold and ignoring Honor Requirements.

I was under the impression that standard Force bonuses and penalties remained in effect until the end of turn or until the card placed facedown for whatever reason.

Alex Jones (rules official), 21 December 2009

A couple of questions came up while we were playing this evening.

1) How long does control last? No where on the card does it say until the end of the game, so does it''s effect stop at the end of the turn?

Control reads:

Open: Target your unbowed Samurai: While he remains unbowed and in play, negate all straightening of a target Personality.

2) Also we had a question about Personalities recurred by Will. The question had to with whether a force bonus or penalty on a Personality remains in effect when the Personality is put into the discard pile. If the Personality is recurred by Will on the same turn that he was place in the discard pile, and he had been targeted by a standard Force bonus, would the Personality return with the Force bonus or just his printed stats?

Will reads:

Battle: If you control an opposed unit at the current battlefield, target your dead Samurai Personality: Bring him into play there, paying 2 less Gold and ignoring Honor Requirements.

I was under the impression that standard Force bonuses and penalties remained in effect until the end of turn or until the card placed facedown for whatever reason.

See here for Control and here for Will.

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