Isawa Fosuta XP and "you"

L5R CCG Rules board, 20 December 2009 to 21 December 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 20 December 2009

(Sorry for the pun, I had to make it)

Maho Open: Bow Fosuta: Lose 6 Honor. While Fosuta remains bowed, you may negate his straightening and, at the start of each turn, you may target a Personality and give him a -1F/-1C Curse token. After the next time this game Fosuta straightens or leaves play, destroy all Curse tokens.

The bolded part is the concern here, particularly the meaning of "you". Should Fosuta XP change controller, who would be able to decide whether Fosuta negates the straightening or not? His current controller or the player who originally took the Open action? The "you" in the wording seems to indicate that a change of controller wouldn't work (unlike older cards with "X may remain bowed" wordings).

Thank you in advance.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 20 December 2009

(Sorry for the pun, I had to make it)

Maho Open: Bow Fosuta: Lose 6 Honor. While Fosuta remains bowed, you may negate his straightening and, at the start of each turn, you may target a Personality and give him a -1F/-1C Curse token. After the next time this game Fosuta straightens or leaves play, destroy all Curse tokens.

The bolded part is the concern here, particularly the meaning of "you". Should Fosuta XP change controller, who would be able to decide whether Fosuta negates the straightening or not? His current controller or the player who originally took the Open action? The "you" in the wording seems to indicate that a change of controller wouldn't work (unlike older cards with "X may remain bowed" wordings).

Thank you in advance.

[Oops! See last post!]

http://rules.l5r.com/CE_Physically_mark ... rd_control: "A card’s text (such as, “Lose 3 Honor” or “You may not take Political actions”) is to be read from the perspective of its controller while the card is in play."

The new controller would gets to decide if Fosuta straightens or not.

A player, 21 December 2009

Hello,

There are 2 different replies for the same question about Isawa Fosuta xp and straightening:

http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=79202&p=1037685&hilit=+fosuta#p1037685 http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80638

So which is the good one?

Thank you.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 21 December 2009

Hello,

There are 2 different replies for the same question about Isawa Fosuta xp and straightening:

http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=79202&p=1037685&hilit=+fosuta#p1037685 http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=80638

So which is the good one?

Thank you.

Loïc's. Ignore what I said above.