Justly Earned Victory and permanent force bonuses

L5R CCG Rules board, 26 July 2009 to 5 February 2010

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 26 July 2009

Just to clarify this: will Justly Earned Victory negate the effects of cards that award permanent force bonuses like Arrival of the Obsidian Champion and The Last One? It's my understanding that to negate means to 'end all on-going', so does this mean the force bonus granted by said cards would NOT return at the end of the turn?

Thanks, Mark

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 26 July 2009

(W)ill Justly Earned Victory negate the effects of cards that award permanent force bonuses like Arrival of the Obsidian Champion and The Last One?

They're from actions. Yes.

(D)oes this mean the force bonus granted by said cards would NOT return at the end of the turn?

Yes.

A player, 5 February 2010

Correction: due to a major change in the Comprehensive Rules, now the negation effect from Justly Earned victory is ongoing and lasts until the turn ends. As a consequence the second answer above has become incorrect: the force bonus from Arrival of the Obsidian Champion or The Last One will return at the end of the turn, when this negation effect ends.