Trigger: Pillars of Virtue + The Hundred-Hand Strike

L5R CCG Rules board, 22 July 2009

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A player, 22 July 2009

Hi,

Regarding the rulebook p.22 to 24: Does the additional action of The Hundred-Hand Strike is played before discarding the kiho ? Then, before the opportunity to react with the Pillars of Virtue ability (or any other delayed effects / reactions with the same trigger) ?

Thanks.

Pillars of Virtue Reaction: After the resolution of a Kiho Battle action you took: You may take an additional Battle action.

The Hundred-Hand Strike Kiho Battle: Give your target Monk -1F: Give a target enemy Personality or Follower -3F. Bow the enemy card if it now has 0 Force. You may take an additional Battle action.

A player, 22 July 2009

Does the additional action of The Hundred-Hand Strike is played before discarding the kiho ?

No, this additional action is taken after the Kiho card is discarded (see below).

Then, before the opportunity to react with the Pillars of Virtue ability (or any other delayed effects / reactions with the same trigger) ?

No, it is played after the opportunity to take the Reaction on this Stronghold or any other delayed effects / reactions triggered "after resolution" (see below).

Glossary, Additional: When an action or triggered trait grants an additional action, the timing of the additional action is delayed, such that the action is taken once the action or trait that granted it has ended, and the opportunity to play Reactions to the end of the action or trait has passed.

As a consequence, if you play The Hundred-Hand Strike and choose to take an additional action thanks to its last effect, it is delayed until after the opportunity to play Reactions to the end of this Kiho action. Pillars of Virtue has one such Reaction; if you use it, its own additional action is delayed after the opportunity to play Reactions to the end of this Stronghold's Reaction.

Concretely, you play The Hundred-Hand Strike and you discard it, then you use the Reaction on Pillars of Virtue, then you take an additional Battle action from Pillars of Virtue, then you take an additional Battle action from The Hundred-Hand Strike.