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Eternal Halls of the Shiba says:
Reaction: Once per turn, after one of your cards successfully casts a Kiho and you discard the Kiho, add the Kiho to your hand. Then discard a card from your hand. You may take this action once per game for each copy of each Kiho.
Once the Kiho is back in your hand, does the stronghold restriction on how many times I can do this still affect the Kiho?
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Eternal Halls of the Shiba says:
Reaction: Once per turn, after one of your cards successfully casts a Kiho and you discard the Kiho, add the Kiho to your hand. Then discard a card from your hand. You may take this action once per game for each copy of each Kiho.
Once the Kiho is back in your hand, does the stronghold restriction on how many times I can do this still affect the Kiho?
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Yes, you are still limited, because the text restricts what you as a player can do, not change anything about the card.
Regarding this : viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75159
The Tracking rule ( http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Tracking_rule ) says : “Memory” of the status of individual cards ends when the card enters a deck or a hand, or otherwise becomes both face-down and out of play (such as after a card in the deck or hand is shown). This includes dishonorable status, ongoing effects, and whether or not an ability has been used.
So the kiho can be reused the same turn, as the moment it goes up to the hand, it loose memory of having being played that turn.
Am I wrong in my reasoning anywhere?
Regarding this : viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75159
The Tracking rule ( http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Tracking_rule ) says : “Memory” of the status of individual cards ends when the card enters a deck or a hand, or otherwise becomes both face-down and out of play (such as after a card in the deck or hand is shown). This includes dishonorable status, ongoing effects, and whether or not an ability has been used.
So the kiho can be reused the same turn, as the moment it goes up to the hand, it loose memory of having being played that turn.
Am I wrong in my reasoning anywhere?
No, you are correct.
If you recall, this Stronghold was only legal back in the heady days of no-OPT-action-Rule. So, this interaction is as it has always been.
Following up this: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=75159
The stronghold refers to copies of cards. I got into a situation where I played a Kiho, used the stronghold ability, putting the Kiho back into my hand. At the end of my turn I drew another copy of the same Kiho and played it during my opponent's turn, using the stronghold ability again to put it back into my hand. Do I have to show my opponent the two copies of the card to verify that I'm not breaking any rules?