Determination & Loyal

L5R CCG Rules board, 19 March 2009

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A player, 19 March 2009

Will Determination allow a change of control effect, such as Samarhad, to change the control of a loyal personality?

A player, 19 March 2009

No, unless Samarhad's controller shares a Clan alignment with that Loyal Personality, because the Loyal keyword implies no negation, that is why Determination is useless in order to ignore it (see below, emphasis added).

Glossary, Loyal: "A Personality with the Loyal keyword cannot become controlled by a player who does not share a Clan alignment with that Personality - either by bringing into play or by changing control."

Glossary, Cannot: "2. When found in game rules text, the phrase “cannot” applies to the legality of doing something in the first place; it does not imply that doing that thing is merely negated. "