Follower Status and Fortified Camp

L5R CCG Rules board, 6 October 2008 to 18 March 2009

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 6 October 2008

Something came up in a tournament and wanted to make it clear for me

I have a Taoist Archer attached to a personality, the opposing player destrys it with a Shinjos Courage, I react with Fortified Camp and reattach the follower.

a) If the Taoist Archer has already used his Ranged ability, can he use it again since it left play and reentered?

b) Does the force penalty from Shinjos Courage still affect the follower or it clears because he was destroyed and reentered play?

Thanks a lot

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 6 October 2008

Something came up in a tournament and wanted to make it clear for me

I have a Taoist Archer attached to a personality, the opposing player destrys it with a Shinjos Courage, I react with Fortified Camp and reattach the follower.

a) If the Taoist Archer has already used his Ranged ability, can he use it again since it left play and reentered?

b) Does the force penalty from Shinjos Courage still affect the follower or it clears because he was destroyed and reentered play?

Thanks a lot

Being out of play is not enough for a card to lose "memory".

http://rules.l5r.com/Effects#Tracking_rule: "'Memory' of the status of individual cards ends when the card... becomes both face-down and out of play(.)" Emphasis added.

A player, 18 March 2009

I'm adding my question on to something partially addressed in this thread.

When a the Taoist Archer re-attaches from effects like Fortified Camp or Yoritomo Harada, are you able to draw the card again?

Also, supposing you were able to play the Archer to draw a card, attach the Archer with a Fortified Camp and later with Harada's ability in the same turn, would you be able to draw three cards?

Relevant text:

Taoist Archer Reaction: After this card enters play: Draw a card.

Fortified Camp Reaction: After another player’s action destroys one of your attachment cards or it’s Personality: Attach the card to one of your target Personalities (paying all costs).

Yoritomo Harada Recon Open: During battles at a target province this turn, you have the ability: "Reaction: Any number of times per turn, after one of your Personalities is destroyed: Target an attachment destroyed with him. Attach it to a target Personality in your current army (paying all costs)."

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 18 March 2009

When a the Taoist Archer re-attaches from effects like Fortified Camp or Yoritomo Harada, are you able to draw the card again?

Not if it's the same turn, since that would contradict the rule on ability use being once a turn. Answer for the following question is the same.