Yogo Honami and Seppuku

L5R CCG Rules board, 17 September 2008 to 18 September 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 17 September 2008

I have a Yogo Honami in play and I play a Hired Killer targeting one of my opponent people. When I lose three honor, can I legally bow Yogo Honami to increase my honor lose to 4 and have her commit seppuku, or is she not actually causing me any honor loss that would make her sepukku legal.

Yogo Honami Scorpion Clan* Shugenja*Courtier Political Reaction: Before a Player loses honor, bow Honami: Increase the loss by 1.

Edit: Fixed Spelling error and added card text. My apologizes.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 17 September 2008

I have a Yogo Honami in play and I play a Hired Killer targeting one of my opponent people. When I lose three honor, can I legally bow Yogo Honami to increase my honor lose to 4 and have her commit seppuku, or is she not actually causing me any honor loss that would make her sepukku legal.

Yogo Honami Scorpion Clan* Shugenja*Courtier Political Reaction: Before a Player loses honor, bow Honami: Increase the loss by 1.

Edit: Fixed Spelling error and added card text. My apologizes.

Who is Yogo Honomi?

Alex Jones (rules official), 18 September 2008

Yogo Honami: Political Reaction: Before a player loses Honor, bow Honami: Increase the loss by 1.

Seppuku: Reaction: Any number of times per turn, before you lose Honor from an action that targeted or was performed by one of your Courtier or Samurai Personalities: He commits seppuku. If the seppuku destroyed him, reduce the Honor loss to one.

If the honour loss was "from" Honami, you could have her seppuku to reduce the Honour loss. However, Honami reacts to, and modifies, an honour loss from another source, she doesn't create a new one and she doesn't change the source of the Honour loss. She cannot seppuku in response to her ability.

Alex