Yodin Sensei vs. Skirt the Edge

L5R CCG Rules board, 27 August 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 27 August 2008

yodin:"The player (or players) with the most personalities in play cannot bring a Personality into play if he or she has brought a personality into play this turn."

Skirt: "Recon Limited: Target a Scout you control, and bow him if he is not Ratling: Target a Province. After the next time you destroy the Province as the Attacker or win a battle at it, create two 1F/1C Ratling Creature Personalities"

1. So, Yodin essentially lets the player with the most personalities only bring one in per turn. How does this interact with Skirt the Edge, which gets you two peeps simultaneously? Assuming I've brought no other personalities into play this turn, would I get one Rat or two?

2. Last I heard, "winning a battle" changed meanings (per Standard Bearers) does this mean I can get free Rats off Skirt even if I don't destroy a Province or enemy units?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 27 August 2008

1. So, Yodin essentially lets the player with the most personalities only bring one in per turn. How does this interact with Skirt the Edge, which gets you two peeps simultaneously? Assuming I've brought no other personalities into play this turn, would I get one Rat or two?

You would get two.

http://rules.l5r.com/Older_Card_Rulings_X-Z#Yodin_Sensei: "You may not bring a second Personality into play if the first you bring into play causes you to be tied for "the most" Personalities. [JA, 8 October 2000] However, this will not prevent multiple Personalities entering play simultaneously if you otherwise meet the conditions for bringing one into play. [ML, 08 June 2005]

2. Last I heard, "winning a battle" changed meanings (per Standard Bearers) does this mean I can get free Rats off Skirt even if I don't destroy a Province or enemy units?

Yes. All you have to do is have an army with greater a Force total than the enemy army's, which would be 0 if empty.