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A player, 8 July 2008
Regarding viewtopic.php?f=59&t=68597 I note that specific reference is made to spells, and the CR's say:
The timing point "after [a card] performs" an action is after the fact that the card's performing status is known; that is,
* after the action is announced, if the performing is from the card's own ability or that of an Item or Spell attached to it; * after the action targets the performer otherwise.
So it makes sense that Zao can react after performing an action on a spell, per the first bullet point. However, what about kihos that would bow him? For example, Wrist Lock says:
Water Kiho Battle: Bow your target Monk or Shugenja: Move home a target attacking Personality. You may target and destroy an attachment in his unit. Gain 2 Honor.
This is a little unclear...does it go by the strict order of words in the text? For example, it says "Bow your target Monk or Shugenja..." Since "bow" appears in the sentence before "target", is Zao bowed before the trigger point in the second bullet point above (after the action targets the performer otherwise). So, if it said, "Target your Monk or Shugenja and bow him..." Zao would be able to react? Or am I looking too hard at the strict details of the text? The other posts I've searched on Zao deal only with spells, not kihos.
Thanks!
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 8 July 2008
Regarding viewtopic.php?f=59&t=68597 I note that specific reference is made to spells, and the CR's say:
The timing point "after [a card] performs" an action is after the fact that the card's performing status is known; that is,
* after the action is announced, if the performing is from the card's own ability or that of an Item or Spell attached to it; * after the action targets the performer otherwise.
So it makes sense that Zao can react after performing an action on a spell, per the first bullet point. However, what about kihos that would bow him? For example, Wrist Lock says:
Water Kiho Battle: Bow your target Monk or Shugenja: Move home a target attacking Personality. You may target and destroy an attachment in his unit. Gain 2 Honor.
This is a little unclear...does it go by the strict order of words in the text? For example, it says "Bow your target Monk or Shugenja..." Since "bow" appears in the sentence before "target", is Zao bowed before the trigger point in the second bullet point above (after the action targets the performer otherwise). So, if it said, "Target your Monk or Shugenja and bow him..." Zao would be able to react? Or am I looking too hard at the strict details of the text? The other posts I've searched on Zao deal only with spells, not kihos.
Thanks!
Mandatory targeting is always going to occur before bowing to pay cost.
Start at http://rules.l5r.com/Abilities_and_acti ... _targeting, and you see that all happens before the next step of paying costs.