Bayushi Paneki (Experienced 4)

L5R CCG Rules board, 8 June 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 8 June 2008

I hope this isn't a repeat, but I did search and had a friend search to and we couldn't find it.

if I play an action that targets one of my people personalities as a cost, and one of my opponent's personalities during effects. I would loose 2 honor from paneki exp4 1 for targeting my guy and 1 more for targeting his personality in a different timing portion of an action?

Example I play the strike chain targeting my monk, and his personality with a paneki at the battle field.

How much honor do I loose? I thought it was 1 but was told it had been ruled on that because I was targeting 2 different people in the same action at different phase's I loose 1 for each targeting.

[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 8 June 2008

I hope this isn't a repeat, but I did search and had a friend search to and we couldn't find it.

if I play an action that targets one of my people personalities as a cost, and one of my opponent's personalities during effects. I would loose 2 honor from paneki exp4 1 for targeting my guy and 1 more for targeting his personality in a different timing portion of an action?

Example I play the strike chain targeting my monk, and his personality with a paneki at the battle field.

How much honor do I loose? I thought it was 1 but was told it had been ruled on that because I was targeting 2 different people in the same action at different phase's I loose 1 for each targeting.

[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]

First of all, please use complete card titles when asking Rules questions. I'm guessing you mean Bayushi Paneki Exp4 (not a hard guess, but I'm sure you understand that using complete titles is just a good all-around habit to be in).

Second, I do thank you for using the Search function to look for this so-called "ruling" before asking. Of course, the reason you didn't find it is because whomever told you about it is not correct.

Bayushi Paneki Exp 4 says, "After another player's action resolves that targeted one or more Personalities at Paneki's location: The player loses 1 Honor."

The trait's trigger is the action resolving, and the effect is losing 1 Honor. Actions only finish resolving once, so you're only going to lose 1 Honor per action, regardless of how many Personalities at Paneki's Location were targeted over the course of the action. That's the reason and context for it saying "one or more Personalities"; any number above zero can have been targeted, still just 1 Honor is lost.