A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 21 April 2008
House of Tao After Strongholds, Sensei, and Winds are revealed, search your an Elemental Ring and put it into play. If you put a Shadowlands card into play, remove all of your Elemental Rings from the game.
Dark Ring of Air Shadowlands Lose 5 Honor.This card does not count towards an Enlightenment Victory. Destroy this card if a Ring of Air enters play.Play this card after you destroy another player's Shugenja or Monk with an action.Elemental Benefit: Once per turn, cancel a Spell or Kiho targeting you or your cards.
My question is: when does the second sentence begin to trigger? Does it happen as soon as you are playing the first Ring off the Stronghold, even though no one has begun their turns yet and play has not started?
More directly: If I play the Dark Ring of Air with the House of Tao's effect, will it cause itself to be discarded?
[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]
Alex Jones (rules official), 21 April 2008
House of Tao After Strongholds, Sensei, and Winds are revealed, search your an Elemental Ring and put it into play. If you put a Shadowlands card into play, remove all of your Elemental Rings from the game.
Dark Ring of Air Shadowlands Lose 5 Honor.This card does not count towards an Enlightenment Victory. Destroy this card if a Ring of Air enters play.Play this card after you destroy another player's Shugenja or Monk with an action.Elemental Benefit: Once per turn, cancel a Spell or Kiho targeting you or your cards.
My question is: when does the second sentence begin to trigger? Does it happen as soon as you are playing the first Ring off the Stronghold, even though no one has begun their turns yet and play has not started?
More directly: If I play the Dark Ring of Air with the House of Tao's effect, will it cause itself to be discarded?
[Mod edit: Thread title. -ZF]
The House of Tao's second trait is active as soon as the stronghold is revealed: if you put a Dark Ring into play with the first trait it is immediately removed by the second.
The rulings here may be of use: http://www.legendofthefiverings.com/rul ... hold_boxes