Three-Stone River and Castle Moat

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 April 2008

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 10 April 2008

Hey all, 1. Player B is attacking Player A's final province with any non-zero number of units 2. Player A has a Castle Moat in play. 3. Player A defends with any non-zero number of units 4. Player A takes the first action as the defender, and plays Three-Stone River. 5. Player B passes, followed by Player A

Would all units in Player B's army, assuming none had any followers with greater then 1F attached, be reduced to 0? If not, what would their force be?

Castle Moat: While you have exactly one province, Personalities and Followers attacking you have -1F

Three-Stone River: Text Terrain Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 April 2008

Hey all, 1. Player B is attacking Player A's final province with any non-zero number of units 2. Player A has a Castle Moat in play. 3. Player A defends with any non-zero number of units 4. Player A takes the first action as the defender, and plays Three-Stone River. 5. Player B passes, followed by Player A

Would all units in Player B's army, assuming none had any followers with greater then 1F attached, be reduced to 0? If not, what would their force be?

Castle Moat: While you have exactly one province, Personalities and Followers attacking you have -1F

Three-Stone River: Text Terrain Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.

Continuous effects (e.g., Castle Moat) will apply before other effects (e.g., Three Stone River).

A player, 10 April 2008

Castle Moat: While you have exactly one province, Personalities and Followers attacking you have -1F

Three-Stone River: Text Terrain Battle: Before this battle’s resolution, reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.

if i play three stone river, i understand that the force will be one because of the continuious effects are already applied to attacking cards

my question is,

how long does the force reduction last from three stone river, does it last to end of turn or just until the end of the resolution of the battle

if my opponent plays desperate wager to gain a new attack phase are all his personalities still one force when they attack the second time?

many thanks

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 April 2008

how long does the force reduction last from three stone river, does it last to end of turn or just until the end of the resolution of the battle

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_T#Terrain: "After battle resolution, discard any Terrains in play at the current battlefield. Discarding a Terrain in this way ends its ongoing effects, unless they are delayed to a point in time that has yet to occur, or their duration explicitly lasts beyond the battle resolution."