Daizu, seiden sanzo and o-shiken

L5R CCG Rules board, 10 March 2008

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A player, 10 March 2008

O-SHIKEN: Reaction: After an action resolves which destroyed this card's Personality, even if this card is now out of play: Target one of your Crab Clan Personalities at the location where the Personality was destroyed. Attach this card to him, waiving costs.

HIDA DAIZU: Once per game, after Daizu is destroyed: You may rehonor him and bring him into play (in your home), waiving costs.

SEIDEN SANZO: Limited: Target a Personality you own and control. He gains Cavalry and +3F. Destroy him at the start of your next Dynasty Phase.

Hi.

I have Hida Daizu in play (and no other personality), with a O-Shiken attached. I target him with seiden sanzo. Then at the start of my dynasty phase, Hida daizu is destroyed because of Seiden Sanzo. So 0-Shiken goes to the discard pile and Hida Daizu comes back into play (because of his trait). Can i re-attach O-Shiken to him? Or is it not possible because of the timing?

Thanks again.

Zen Faulkes (rules official), 10 March 2008

I have Hida Daizu in play (and no other personality), with a O-Shiken attached. I target him with seiden sanzo. Then at the start of my dynasty phase, Hida daizu is destroyed because of Seiden Sanzo. So 0-Shiken goes to the discard pile and Hida Daizu comes back into play (because of his trait). Can i re-attach O-Shiken to him?

No.

O-Shiken is played "after an action resolves," which means it must be used after immediate effects resolve. Destruction is a delayed effect.

http://rules.l5r.com/Glossary_R#Resolve: "(An action) stops resolving when its sequence of effect activation has ended, even if the application of some effects has been delayed."