Ikumi, Timing and 0C rule

L5R CCG Rules board, 26 December 2007

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A player, 26 December 2007

OK, this is a very specific question, so bear with me...

Cards in Play: Mine: (Playing Spider) Ikumi with Koutetsu Iyoku and 2 Earth Becomes Sky Tokens (-4C). Opponent: Any 4C guy, no cards attached.

Cards in my Hand: Arrows from the Wood, Death after Life.

Situation: Ikumi uses her ability, destroying her Koutetsu Iyoku and targetting the 4C Personality. What Happens?

Ikumi dies for having 0C and the range attack is not resolved.The Range Attack is called before Ikumi diesIkumi dies for having 0CDeath after Life's Reaction Triggers The Range attack of 3 against the 4C person. Nothing happens.The Range Attack is called before Ikumi diesThe Arrows from the Woods reaction triggers. Ikumi dies for having 0CDeath after Life's Reaction Triggers The Range attack cannot be resolved, since the acting personality is no longer in play.The Range Attack is called before Ikumi diesThe Arrows from the Woods reaction triggers. Ikumi dies for having 0CDeath after Life's Reaction Triggers Range attack of 5 against the other personality's Chi.The opposing Personality diesThe Range Attack is called before Ikumi diesThe Arrows from the Woods reaction triggers. Range attack of 5 against the other personality's Chi.The opposing Personality diesIkumi dies for having 0CDeath after Life's Reaction Triggers, allowing me to target the opossing personality I just destroyed. Something else, please specify. Cards: Chuda Ikumi Spider Clan • Shugenja • Shadowlands Lose 4 Honor. Battle: Any number of times per turn, destroy one of your cards in this army: Ranged Attack whose strength equals the card's Force before it was destroyed, and which you may compare against a Personality's Chi instead of Force. Force 3 Chi 4

Koutetsu Iyoku Armor • Unique This Personality has a minimum Chi of 5. Can only attach to a Spider Clan Personality. Battle: Straighten this personality: Reduce a target enemy Personality's Force to 0. Force +3 Chi +0

Arrows from the Woods Battle: Ranged 2 Attack. Reaction: After you target another player’s card with a Ranged Attack: Increase that Ranged Attack’s strength by 2.

Death after Life Reaction: After one of your Personalities is destroyed during battle: Lose 5 Honor. Target a dead Personality in your discard pile, or in any discard pile if you are a Spider Clan player. Permanently give him Shadowlands and Undead. Bring him into play in your current army, ignoring restrictions (paying all costs).

Thank you