Shinjo Saihan + The Khan's Gambit

L5R CCG Rules board, 29 October 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 29 October 2007

Shinjo Saihan's ability reads: Reaction: After any player announces a Terrain action: Give Saihan a +2F token. Force 4

Khan's Gambit reads: Winter Terrain Battle: Your Personalities have +1F and cannot move home. You cannot use abilities on your cards at this battlefield

If Shinjo Saihan is at the battle where the Khan's Gambit is to be played, does his ability trigger during the "Good Faith" segment, thus enabling him to gain the +2F token, or does the Khan's Gambit's effect trigger first?

Chris Fuchs (rules official), 29 October 2007

Shinjo Saihan's ability reads: Reaction: After any player announces a Terrain action: Give Saihan a +2F token. Force 4

Khan's Gambit reads: Winter Terrain Battle: Your Personalities have +1F and cannot move home. You cannot use abilities on your cards at this battlefield

If Shinjo Saihan is at the battle where the Khan's Gambit is to be played, does his ability trigger during the "Good Faith" segment, thus enabling him to gain the +2F token, or does the Khan's Gambit's effect trigger first?

The action is announced long before any of its effects begin to resolve.