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A player, 23 September 2007
Togashi Kazuki Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control. Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki’s Force or his Chi to Kazuki’s Chi.
Togashi Satsu (Experienced 4) Your Dragon Clan Personalities at Satsu's location have a Force bonus equal to the number of Rings you control. Limited: Once per game, even if Satsu is dead: Search your Fate deck, hand or discard pile for a Ring. Show it. Put it into play or into your hand.
Please let me know if my math in the following situation is correct:
Kazuki, Satsu, and a Togashi Jomei(Force 3) are at my home. I have 3 rings in play. Their forces at this moment are: Kazuki - 4 + 3(from his own trait/rings) +3(from Satsu's trait/rings) = 10 Satsu - 6 + 3(from his own trait/rings) = 9 Jomei - 3 + 3(from Satsu) = 6
now if I use Kazuki's ability on Venerable master the following happens: Kazuki's force is 10. He sets Jomei's force to 10. Jomei's force becomes 10 + 3(from Satsu) for a total of 13 as long as he is at the same location as Satsu. Is this correct?
In other words, is the +3 from Satsu applied to Jomei both before and after Kazuki's action effects him?
Chris Fuchs (rules official), 23 September 2007
Togashi Kazuki Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control. Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki’s Force or his Chi to Kazuki’s Chi.
Togashi Satsu (Experienced 4) Your Dragon Clan Personalities at Satsu's location have a Force bonus equal to the number of Rings you control. Limited: Once per game, even if Satsu is dead: Search your Fate deck, hand or discard pile for a Ring. Show it. Put it into play or into your hand.
Please let me know if my math in the following situation is correct:
Kazuki, Satsu, and a Togashi Jomei(Force 3) are at my home. I have 3 rings in play. Their forces at this moment are: Kazuki - 4 + 3(from his own trait/rings) +3(from Satsu's trait/rings) = 10 Satsu - 6 + 3(from his own trait/rings) = 9 Jomei - 3 + 3(from Satsu) = 6
now if I use Kazuki's ability on Venerable master the following happens: Kazuki's force is 10. He sets Jomei's force to 10. Jomei's force becomes 10 + 3(from Satsu) for a total of 13 as long as he is at the same location as Satsu. Is this correct?
In other words, is the +3 from Satsu applied to Jomei both before and after Kazuki's action effects him?
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